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Who's Driving - Hiring Meltdowns & Halloween Shenanigans
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Road Trip Stories and Car Mishaps
Speaker 1Come on, get in. I'm in here, let's go. We may have to make a few pit stops.
Speaker 2We don't have a lot of time, you still got the dysentery.
Speaker 1Ha, ha ha ha. It's time for another episode of who's Driving. Welcome to who's Driving. I'm Wesley Turner.
Speaker 2And I'm Stephen Merk. We're two best friends and entrepreneurs.
Speaker 1Who's Driving is an entertaining look into the behind the scenes of our lives, friendship and business.
Speaker 2These are the stories we share and topics we discuss, as two best friends would on a long road trip.
Speaker 1Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer a wide range of informative topics centered around running small businesses, social media and all things home and garden.
Speaker 2Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
Speaker 1You never know who's driving or where we're headed. All we know is it's always a fun ride and coming up in this episode in a bit, we're going to talk about tricks and treats, halloween things.
Speaker 2Not the kind of tricks we used to be getting.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2Actually some legit tricks and treats, yeah, and all things we should have been doing.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's right. It was a different time when we were growing up it really was especially living in the country Everything's different Right Speaking of different times. I was literally just like 30 seconds ago scrolling on TikTok and I saw this little news article and I want to see your take on this. So there is a news article that a 10-year-old boy and 11-year-old girl, his sister, brother and sister from Florida got mad at their mom, stole the car and decided they were running away.
Speaker 1You know we all ran away as kids like on our bike or something had a little hissy fit. No, they took the car, ran away and were pulled over 200 miles, that's over three hours of driving Away from their house.
Speaker 2At like four in the morning, that's if they were driving 60, so they probably were not, so they've probably been driving for four to five hours.
Speaker 1Yeah, at 4 AM, and they thought maybe someone had kidnapped them or something. No, it was like the police pulled them over and a 10-year-old boy and a 11-year-old girl got out. They were mad because their electronic devices had been taken away.
Speaker 2I would have beat their asses. They should have prayed that they went to jail, because I would have beat.
Speaker 1And then you got to go get the car. That's now three hours away. I would and pick them up.
Speaker 2Well, I don't know if I've ever told you that you know I stole my mother's car.
Speaker 1No, how old were you? Three Three.
Speaker 2No, it legit. I didn't steal it, I was. We were at my grandparents' house. I remember it so vividly because it was kind of one of those dramatic things and my mother would come home from work it was my dad's parents and my grandmother was a great cook and I was, like I'm ready to go home and my mom was like, well, I'm going to eat these pinto beans or whatever.
Speaker 1We did that same thing. We ate at my a lot of times. Well, depending on, but my mom's parents would cook and we'd stop by there and I'd be like I'm ready to go home, me too. Let's go home.
Speaker 2And I was. And my mother I mean this was like 1975, 1976, was really bad about leaving her keys in the car. Well, I mean, everybody did then, everybody did. They barely locked and so I went outside and they thought I was going out to play, because I was always playing outside. I was three, so my little busy body self went over and it was a Plymouth satellite sea bring red, I remember the car with a black vinyl top.
Speaker 2I don't know how I got the door open because it was hard to open and it was a two door sporty car. So I had these big old doors. So I got in it and I couldn't get the door completely closed, but I cranked the car up, threw it in reverse they lived on a hill, slight hill Threw it in reverse, stomped on the gas and it went flying down the driveway backwards. I fell out of the car. The car ran over me, what. And then it crashed into the pine trees and how. I remember like I only remember bits and pieces of it that I remember when the car hit the trees, like all this bark came snowing down On top of you, yeah, and I remember that. And I can remember my mother running out on the front porch screaming like bloody murder, yeah, oh my.
Speaker 2God, oh my God, my baby, my baby, my baby, she was running and thankfully it was the front tires and I don't know how, I guess maybe because it was like in the edge of the woods, so it was like a lot and it was all natural. So it was a lot of leaves and underbrush, yeah, a little padding, a little padding, I guess. I mean, I have no recollection, but I had bruises across my legs of car tires.
Speaker 1That is crazy, that is insane. My dad, I bet see, they knew right then that you were going to be a pain in the ass.
Speaker 2Like they knew. My dad still gets mad when I talk about that Because you were so the same person you are now.
Speaker 1No patience.
Speaker 2No patience Right now we're leaving. Right.
Speaker 1If you're not leaving, I'm leaving. I'm taking the car.
Speaker 2Yeah, what was I? I mean, I would have beat the shit out of me.
Speaker 1When you were talking about the old car. Do you remember the cars used to have a different key for the lock in the ignition?
Speaker 2Yeah, and do you remember to brighten the lights you press the button on the floorboard. I do remember that.
Speaker 1I never had a car like that, but my granddaddy had an old truck like that, or maybe my dad's Jeep was like that. Probably they all were, yeah.
Speaker 2And then my aunt had a car. Well, actually it was a 60. I think it was a 61 Plymouth something. It was a white Plymouth. My grandparents bought it new. Then my aunt and uncle had it. Then we had it, then my aunt and uncle had it, then we had it, then my aunt and uncle got it back. Do you know, we had that car in between my grandparents and my aunt and uncle for over 30 years Dang, and it had push buttons. You push the push drive on the dash.
Speaker 1I don't remember any of that.
Speaker 2But I remember push button radios.
Speaker 1You push the button and it would like the car never quit the engine.
Speaker 2I don't even know how many miles we're on it. It never we had to junk it because the whole car, the bottom of the car, just rusted out.
Speaker 1You could see the road. Remember everyone had back in the day the old cars, and then the ceiling liner would fall down. And you try to stick it back up there. But I love when it fell down and you can mash your hand and it would indent Indent.
Speaker 2Yeah, you remember that they got old and you could. Yeah, it was just that foam that you could write your name in Name in it.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Just Remember, people always had to go get their headliners.
Speaker 1Yeah, there were shops just for that Like they would advertise that why don't we not have that problem now Because they're solid, they're like a.
Speaker 2Stitched and yeah, I don't know Solid. Thank God we got. My dad had an old Pontiac Catalina and my car was in the. My first car, my Volkswagen was being painted and I had to drive that Catalina around and it had the. The headliner was hanging down and the Stereo in the car. It was push button, eight track and it the radio did not work, so the only I know that drove you crazy the only thing.
Speaker 2but I had eight, a few eight tracks in the car, but there was one stuck in there, oh yeah, and it was Tony and Orlando. Tony, orlando and Dawn knock three times on this.
Speaker 1Oh, you still love that. You still love that song.
Speaker 2That is too funny. It's funny the things you remember with cars.
Speaker 1But back to these kids.
Speaker 2I want to know.
Speaker 1Well, first of all, I want to know what kind of car they were in Because they made it and how tall they were 200 miles.
Speaker 2I need to know how tall I'm sure it was the boy driving yeah Girls with me that.
Speaker 1They said the 10 year old, which was the boy, was driving, but what kind of car were they in? And you know, he's obviously got some good driving skills If he was able.
Speaker 2I'm impressed, but I was driving at that age on the farm.
Speaker 1Were you yeah, but not like through traffic on the highway.
Speaker 2No, but I was driving big tractors and farm trucks and, oh yeah, everything I drove, everything For sure.
Speaker 1So I just was blown away because my mom would have been.
Speaker 2I would have ran away from the police, but I would have been begging them to put me in jail and not you know, not kill me.
Speaker 1Oh, I know me too, like that was, like blown away.
Speaker 2Well, changing the subject, okay, I went. We were at market. I fell asleep, you know, because I keep my TV on all night long.
Speaker 1Yes, it's a sleeping device for me. I have to have my watch. That's why we have to have separate rooms now.
Speaker 2Yes, I have to have that noise.
Speaker 1And we can afford them. Yes, versus back in the day, we couldn't. Yeah, and I'd try to sleep with the TV on. Then I'd try to turn it off and I would wake up and turn it back on and it was a whole thing.
Speaker 2Well, I fell asleep. I wasn't feeling well one day. Well, both of us didn't feel well for one day and I went to bed early.
Speaker 1I'm still recovering.
Speaker 2Yes, and, and I think we both might have gotten a little bug or virus, because I'm still not feeling 100%, but anyway I regressed. Anyway, I woke up. Now I don't remember what channel I was on, but it was the WWF, the World Wrestling Federation, those people wrestling.
Speaker 1The WWF WWE.
Speaker 2WWE I don't know. I don't know either. Wwe.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2WWF, World Wrestling Federation. Okay, I think.
Speaker 1I don't know. Anyway, this is so out of my realm.
Speaker 2I just you know it was on. I didn't know where the remote was and I was just kind of in one of those awe moments and I'm like people watch this. Like, who watches it? I want to know. I'm sure some of our listeners watch and I want to know why do you watch? I'm just totally interested because I got zero out of it.
Speaker 1Okay, Text us or call us and leave us a message on our hotline. Our hotline number of course I'll put it in the show notes is 8649825029. Do you watch wrestling, and what draws you in Is it?
Speaker 2the. Is it the men? Is it the hot men and the tight little britches? That didn't do it for me, oddly. I mean it was just I don't know. It just seems so fake to me. But I mean reality TV is faked too and I get sucked into that. So I was kind of like, well, it's no, maybe that's the seventies and eighties versions of you know reality.
Childhood Memories and Hiring Mishaps
Speaker 1It is fake because the storylines already planned out who's going to win. Yeah, that sort of thing. Okay, I have to say I grew up like going to my dad's house on the weekend and I had brothers and they would watch as kids and should have known then.
Speaker 2It all tracks back.
Speaker 1Should have known then. I thought that was the dumbest shit ever. Like what? What?
Speaker 2y'all are just just they're in there talking like I'm going to kill you.
Speaker 1You know, it's just horrible acting Right, which is all part of it.
Speaker 2So I guess if you're into it it's just so silly to me. Yeah, it was silly, but I was also the child that did not watch cartoons.
Speaker 1Yeah, you did it.
Speaker 2I watched a few. I watched Tom and Jerry, oh, my favorite. Love Tom and Jerry, me too.
Speaker 1You know what cartoons I hated.
Speaker 2I hated Bugs Bunny, all those. Oh, you did yeah.
Speaker 1Looney Tunes, I like those. No, the Muppets, muppet. Okay, I like the Muppets, I can't stand them to this day Can't stand them.
Speaker 2I had a Kermit stuff, kermit I just threw him out.
Speaker 1I just threw him out. He's in everything. Oh, kirby, no, miss Piggy. Yeah, miss Piggy. No, none of them.
Speaker 2I didn't mind them as much, but I like Tom and Jerry. That was pretty much. It Hated Looney Tunes.
Speaker 1Yeah, I like Looney Tunes, I like Spon all the time Going back to, should have known I was talking to our friend Catherine aka Central, also known as Design Central Project, on Her name's Central Instagram. I don't even know who she was and we were talking about she was at her daughter's baseball game or whatever, and she had sent me like a picture Softball Girl yeah.
Speaker 1And I was like, nope, See, that's where I'm out as a parent. I'd have been like you got to go by yourself. We were laughing about it and I was just like, oh my gosh should have known. As a kid I hated baseball. Like I played, I don't know what would have been probably two years, like one year of T-ball, Is that?
Speaker 2how you play.
Speaker 1And then one year of coach pit.
Speaker 2Is that?
Speaker 1where the coach throws it. I was like I'm not doing this.
Speaker 2I told my parents.
Speaker 1I was like y'all want me to do what? And then the practices were on Saturday morning. You want me to get up and go run around.
Speaker 2They didn't make you, though, did they?
Speaker 1No, that was it. I played those two years and that was it. My brother's played all the way through, like I don't know, probably high school. Yeah. I was like oh my gosh, I can't imagine. Should have known.
Speaker 2You were in there with your easy bake oven. You did get an easy bake, didn't?
Speaker 1you. Yes, I loved my easy bake oven.
Speaker 2Did your brothers not make fun of you?
Speaker 1No, they didn't make fun of me.
Speaker 2I would have made fun of you you got an easy bake oven.
Speaker 1I loved my easy bake oven. Yes, my cousin. I have a cousin. She's two years younger than me and we're like brother sister. We always hung out Because we're closer in age than my brothers are, because they're four and five years older than me, I think, or three and four, whatever. So we were always close, she and I, and we both got easy bake ovens for Christmas when you were.
Speaker 2I bet you were baking. Oh, you were making everything.
Speaker 1You know me brownies and everything.
Speaker 2That is hilarious to me.
Speaker 1I loved it. Everyone needs an easy bake oven.
Speaker 2Boy, girl bake.
Speaker 1Was it light bulb?
Speaker 2Yeah, and it baked. My little cousin got one one Christmas an easy bake and we would help her make little cakes.
Speaker 1Yeah, those thin little pans, little pans. Yeah, it didn't take much to bake on my gas because they were so thin, it did take a while. Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2I had the easy bake oven. I bet you made every kind possible. You know it. I bet you went to the, to the Harris teeter or whatever the grocery store was there in Tennessee.
Speaker 1I feel like you had to go wherever you got your easy bake oven, because you had to have the special mix, because it was proportionate.
Speaker 2Yeah, but you could do it with cake mix. Well, later we did it Just mixes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was easier with the packets.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm sure. So I have to bring up something that you have to walk us through and I have not fully been walked through the story, but a little piece here and there. But we have been hiring new employees by we you, because I've passed that off to you officially. We've been hiring new employees and you've been interviewing for our home store. Is this discussable? It's discussable.
Speaker 2Yeah, we're going to. It's fine. It's a hella funny story. I've been harassed and tormented.
Speaker 1So, steve, this is kind of a first, at least in our business. This is a first Maybe in your McDonald's, no, Maybe you may have had some.
Speaker 2No, nothing like this, but no one. Like in McDonald's, you might get a call back. Well, I don't understand why you're not hiring me Right. You might get that, but never to this extreme.
Speaker 1No. So Stephen hired, no Interview, I mean interviewed, interviewed A lady, a lady.
Speaker 2Was asleep or not. Yeah, using that term, analogy very generous, right.
Speaker 1And so we do have, obviously, our three.
Speaker 2We're going to call our door nail.
Speaker 1Door nail. Oh my gosh, so we do have our three separate. Basically it's all one company, but places you can work. You can work at the garden store, you can work at the home store, you can work at our warehouse, and each place has different needs Needs. So we're hadn't had out no, did she see from our ad?
Speaker 2Yes, she did, and she did see from the ad and then dropped her resume.
Job Offer and Rejection Drama
Speaker 1Oh resume, I was impressed that she took that initiative Right. So Stephen calls her in, has an interview, calls me, says I really like her, but there are a few little hesitations. And when he says that, I'm like it's a no and he's like no, no, hear me out there's a few like I don't think it's anything bad. I just feel like, after interviewing her, I really, really like her.
Speaker 1I don't feel like she's right for the home store, but I think she would be perfect at the warehouse, like I think she would like everyone, she likes home decor. She, you know, has a lot of interest. And I'm like, okay, well, if that's what you think, then you know you're the one hiring or we were just discussing it. So he's like well, that doesn't really help us at the home store. But I think I'll call her tomorrow and say you know we can offer you this job, which you had already left her in the interview saying we have a fit for you somewhere in the company. It may not be at the home store. Yes, is how you left it all.
Speaker 2That is exactly so you were upfront with her, Because my brain was already like I just don't think you're a fit here, but you could be a fit there, Right? And you know, I I guess I look at things way differently because my first job was at McDonald's, so I mine was a gas station. Yeah, we typically don't look at any three of our locations like one's better than the other.
Speaker 1No, they're all a part of the company and they're all in and all jobs are important I mean, we're not hiring you if it's not important, right.
Speaker 2Every job is just as important, right, but it's very funny to me how people in general can make a perception that one job is better than the other. Right, and I don't. I guess it's so far from my personality and yours. I mean, one day we might be playing in dirt at the garden store, the next day we might be selling a sofa at the home store, and then we're always packing boxes and doing stuff Unpacking.
Speaker 1Or unpacking, or climbing on top of boxes, moving yeah.
Speaker 2Taking out trash. How many times have I taken trash out at the warehouse and that's a feat, that's not a quickie Right Bag and trash, but anyway, I have never been that person. So I offered her that. I offered Darnell that job.
Speaker 1So you offered her a job at the warehouse. You called it and said so I need to know how this all went down because I thought she was hired and working. So you called her, said I have this job for you at the warehouse, pays what we had talked about, which was the same as it would have been At any of the other locations. Yeah, so it wasn't like it was a downgrade in pay Not at all. And did she say okay? Then she said okay, okay.
Speaker 2And then she takes me for confirmation of how much she would make and I told her Right, and she said I'm going to have to decline, Okay. And I said okay, thank you, which you are the best, Right. I mean, he's out. You know I was very polite, you know I was like, well, it doesn't work for her whatever.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And maybe it was the money, because there's commission at the home store, right, because you're selling big things. So I'm like, okay. But my thought was you know, a lot of times we've hired people in different places. We get to know them, we get to see their skill set and they can live somewhere or do something else. Yeah, there's lots of different areas of the business. Well then, for the next like, let me count on Six hours.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Six hours I was harassed, tormented, via text messages.
Speaker 1Can you? You're going to have to read us some of these. You're going to have to pull out your phone. It was his. He was like oh my gosh. I got another message and I went um.
Speaker 2Listen, I was very, very nice, yes, and very professional, because, honestly, I felt a little bad for her because she was taking something so personal that wasn't.
Speaker 1I feel like she got drunk or something afterwards, Like I feel like. I feel like.
Speaker 2And she noticed I had told her about the podcast. She may be listening. That's fine, but if you are listening you should take a fence.
Speaker 1It's a learning lesson. Yeah, don't do it.
Speaker 2No, she sent me photos of her home that she decorated. And I thought it wasn't even meant for me, yeah.
Speaker 1I thought she was texting. Because she didn't say anything.
Speaker 2She just sent you these photos. Well, she sent me these photos and she said I knew I was a threat, by the way, and my response was was that text for me? Oh yeah, and she said yes, most definitely. I said oh okay, and she said that is my home, you passed on a very good thing. And I so graciously and kind said it's so pretty, it isn't it?
Speaker 1isn't.
Speaker 2It isn't at all Okay and I'm not being mean, but I wasn't going to be mean, Right, Because I'm truly not a mean person. And then she said but you would put me in a warehouse. I am a bit insulted. She was so insulted she was thinking of leaving South Carolina.
Speaker 1Oh, you really insulted her.
Speaker 2Again I was kind. I said oh goodness, I am so sorry you feel that way. I work in the warehouse every day and I love every minute of it. I'm sure you will find your place here in South Carolina. You're a very talented lady.
Speaker 2I was very kind, Was not being mean, Like get a grip honey, and it just went on and on and on for hours, hours, and I was never mean, I was never unkind because I was like, okay, either there's a I'll joke aside there's either an alcohol, there's a substance thing going on here or a mental health thing going on, and I don't want to be unkind to either and I still will not be unkind. But she tried very hard to make me angry.
Speaker 1Well, okay. So even though because the funny thing to me is you finally left it off and said I'm off for my evening- walk.
Speaker 2It was nice meeting you, good luck. Yeah, blah, blah blah. That was at like 7.05 PM. She continued texting me until 1135 PM.
Speaker 1And what was the very light? Can you read us the very last bubble? What was the very?
Speaker 2last she was telling me I don't want to go through all of it but she was telling me what her ex-husband did for a living and yada, yada, yada. And here's the thing she did not. It was like she was trying to convince me that she was better than or whatever.
Speaker 2But here's the thing, and I didn't say this because I did not want to be antagonizing in any way, but I cleaned toilets at McDonald's, I cleaned toilets at a gas station, I cleaned poop out of high chairs. Okay Listen, none of us are any better than anyone and I was so turned off by the fact that she thought she was so much better than everyone that works in that warehouse and I'm like who does that? Who really thinks like that? Right, and I know that.
Speaker 1Especially if you're needing a job.
Speaker 2I know there are people out there that thought they were too good to work at McDonald's and I was that person. By the way all the listeners out there my aunt has worked for McDonald's for over 50 years in management of McDonald's and I can remember as a kid saying, ooh, I would never. This would have like 11, 12 years old, ooh, I would never work at McDonald's. My mom and dad have real jobs. I said that to her.
Speaker 2So she still laughs to this day. She says talk about eating your words. So I never say anything. And it's funny because I was come on I was 11. So I obviously had a lot to learn. But like that's not who I am, there's no job. I would never look at there's jobs. I look at and say, oh my gosh, I could not do that, like physically. Like cleaning up poop. Now I couldn't do it, I would just vomit. I would be sick. I'm not saying I'm better than. Right.
Speaker 1I just couldn't do it, Couldn't do it. Yeah, it is a funny, like a stigma, I guess, between the different like jobs or whatever, because you know I've had people judgey because like being retail owners or whatever, because some people think if you don't have like a corporate, you know job sort of thing, that it's not a real job or whatever you want to classify it is, or you know like you're not doing the same thing.
Speaker 2But hey, we all get to the same Well, and I always got very different treatment from when I worked for McDonald's versus owning, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1As soon as you own, it's like, and here's my thing.
Speaker 2I don't want to be like if I couldn't, if you didn't want to be friends with me when I worked for McDonald's, we don't need to be friends when I own McDonald's, right? Because I'm the same person and the other thing I get is and this really irritates me oh my God, why would you sell out of McDonald's? I mean, you're just, you were just belling money.
Speaker 1First of all, you're not, because I took it and left. There's a truth to that Right.
Trick or Treating and Other Stories
Speaker 2Yes, there is. But I mean, like I don't know, I was so turned off by this lady, more so not anything, even though I didn't personally care for her home pictures and whatever. You know, that's neither here nor there. Everybody has different tastes, but I was so turned off.
Speaker 1By her attitude. Yeah, that she's better than her. Yeah, better than. And you went, and I mean personally. You don't want someone like that working in the store either, because they're going to treat the customer the same way, like Right, you know what I'm saying Right?
Speaker 2So like I'm I don't know, I was just and I feel like, like our employees in all three locations are very down to earth, right and all equally as important.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's all part of the puzzle If the job is important.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean literally, we couldn't do anything without the next one, right? The guys receiving in the warehouse that's important, that's everything we have in the stores and the warehouse, right, you know, kate, getting everything online, doing all that. The packers you know every everything's important, right, and just like somebody being so outwardly, I'm too good, yeah.
Speaker 1That's a big turn off, bitch please.
Speaker 2But I didn't say that, but I was like I really feel bad for anybody that thinks like that. But you know we honestly, you and I are the way we are because we were raised by good parents and grandparents. Yeah, A good family.
Speaker 1I don't know why this just made me think of this. Well, I was thinking of other. We have so many employee stories we can tell, but I don't know why this one just popped into my head. But do you remember? This is when I owned roots by myself, the garden store, and I'd hired someone, and so they worked a day and yes, I know the story and the birthday cake. Yes.
Speaker 2We bought them a birthday.
Speaker 1I was there, yeah, so we had this employee that started I hired, thought she was very nice, she did a great job, and so this her second day was her birthday, so we were like we need to make her feel extra special, whatever. So we bought her a birthday cake.
Speaker 2An expensive cake. And from the bakery, not just a supermarket cake, yeah, a cake we all wanted a piece of.
Speaker 1So this girl came and worked and then in the middle of the day we were like oh, we, happy birthday, we have your cake or whatever for you, and so we give her the cake, we show her the cake, or whatever. Well, then she was like well, I got to tell you something, or whatever, and I was like okay. And she was like I'm not going to work here anymore.
Speaker 2I can't remember exactly what she was something weird, it was just like.
Speaker 1It was like oh, today will be my last day Today will be my last day and I was like, oh okay, Like I literally just gave you this cake.
Speaker 2And she was like and she was doing great it was very weird.
Speaker 1It was very. Yeah, it was very weird. It was like blindsided because I thought you were doing good, we're getting along, you fit in, and it's the middle of the day, I give you a cake and then you're like today's going to be my last day and I was like, oh, okay. And then I was like, well, when are you? I don't know how it came to happen.
Speaker 2No, you said when is going to be your last day, and she said that she wasn't going to be able to work there. And you said when's going to be your last day? And she said today, Today.
Speaker 1But then she ended up, I don't know why, because it was all very nice, but leaving Like right. Then she like started getting her stuff and just left and she took the cake with her Took the damn cake. Before anybody got it, you're listening.
Speaker 2We want the cake back. I'm still pissed about that cake. That was so weird, because everyone had been wanting some of that cake all day, like it was from the bakery we love off of Augusta, uh huh, and we were like wanting that cake like a piece, and the bitch took the cake, took the damn cake that was one of.
Speaker 1I don't know how that popped into my head. I must want the cake. That takes the cake literally. Mm, hmm, uh, we could do so many employee stories for sure.
Speaker 2So on to the next subject. Okay, um, I forget who I was talking to this week. I had come to me in a minute. You know my 50 year old brain. I know you're in your fifties. Now I'm in my fifties Mm hmm, uh, we were talking about you know, when you say get your goat, mm hmm, oh, I got your goat, uh huh.
Speaker 1Or he got your goat Mm.
Speaker 2hmm, that, um, they were telling me where that phrase comes from, so I'm going to Google it right now. You.
Speaker 1Google it and see where I come up, because where does that come from? That's a term I don't use. Oh, he really got your goat.
Speaker 2I. I say that every now and then, Mm hmm, Get your goat. It was about thoroughbred horses.
Speaker 1What With the goat?
Speaker 2Mm, hmm.
Speaker 1Mm, hmm, I'm going to have to hear this one out for sure, like they have an example here.
Speaker 2Gavin may seem unflappable who uses that word, but I know a way to get his goat.
Speaker 2Well, we know how to use it Uh huh, yeah, I know, I was just reading that. Where does it come from? The expression comes from a tradition in horse racing thought to have calming effect on high strong thoroughbreds. A goat was placed in the horse's stall on the night before the race. So what people would do is steal the goat out of the stall To make their horse, make their horse anxious and upset so they could win the race. So you'd say, yeah, I got his goat.
Speaker 1That's the dumbest shit I've heard.
Speaker 2I thought it was interesting because you know everything, every little saying like that comes from some craziness, huh Mm hmm, I got your goat yeah. I don't know your goats, they stink. Well, I didn't know that but you know, we were poor country, we didn't have thoroughbreds.
Speaker 1Yeah, Well, speaking of that, things being different and coming from old times and the kids running off with the cars, which is very different times than when we were growing up. Let's talk about trick or treating in Halloween. I feel like we should have Googled some of these questions I have. I have questions about trick or treating. Okay, my first question is I am a child of the 80s, born in 1981, grew up through, you know, the dare program and I'm a decade prior.
Speaker 2Right, I'm in the 70s, did you have?
Speaker 1dare in school, or was that after you? That came like. I feel like that would be after you.
Speaker 2That would have been like sixth, seventh grade for me.
Speaker 1Yeah, so well, that's when it was for everyone, but did they have that back then?
Speaker 2No, it was later, though I'm saying mine was later, it wasn't a big thing.
Halloween Candy Scare and Childhood Memories
Speaker 1So when I was growing up and you were trick or treating, it was implanted in your head. I mean, I can remember them coming to our school and giving talks about there being razor blades in your candy or your apple or poison. And you could take your candy and get it scanned. Now and my mother would throw away, like you could take it and get it x-rayed.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, and my mother would take away anything that could have been tampered. But here's the thing it was rare that like we only went to neighbors and like our church family trick or treating, that was it.
Speaker 1But was that really a legitimate thing or was that a scare Like, how did that become?
Speaker 2I'm gonna Google that right now. How did?
Speaker 1that become such a thing. I mean, I can just remember. I'm like, was that? A scare tactic. I mean that's beyond sick. Right, who would I mean that it's beyond sick? But like then, the thing is, did they still teach that today? Like I feel like they don't teach that today. And would you not notice a big slice in your apple if there was a razor blade implanted in it? Or in your candy that's packaged? I don't understand. I don't understand. As an adult, I don't understand that concept. Was it just a?
Speaker 2new. They're saying online in Wikipedia that it's all on myth, like an urban myth.
Speaker 1So why did they roll out these programs and you could take your bags to the hospital and get an extra? How?
Speaker 2Americans became convinced their Halloween candy was poisoned or how razor blades in them. This is interesting. It spiked in the early 80s. As I said, a kid of the 80s After rash of Tylenol poisonings. So I guess the cyanide laced poisoning. Which was a woman, I think in North Carolina, Blanche Taylor Moore, that killed her husband. She was behind all that. That really wasn't a thing.
Speaker 1It was one woman that did it.
Speaker 2You have watched that documentary.
Speaker 1Oh my gosh. So that didn't have anything to do with Halloween candy, but it's saying that hyped everyone's paranoia. To think that things were poisoned and laced.
Speaker 2I mean, that's just what I just read which makes sense. I mean I can remember. I can remember nobody wanted to take a Tylenol.
Speaker 1I don't remember that.
Speaker 2You don't remember? Oh they, they like we had Revco. Do you remember Revco? It was CVS. Before you know, it was Revco and they pulled. It was in the early 80s, I don't remember exactly, but they pulled every bit of Tylenol off every shelf in the country, right?
Speaker 1Within days. Yeah, because I thought it was laced with something. Yeah.
Speaker 2And then come to find out it was that lady. I think her name, because I just watched it the other day. I think her name was Blanche Taylor Moore Seems like I've watched it several times, but she killed her husband and she put cyanide in some capsules. Well, you know, the company was panicked because they thought they got it from the store, because she was lying, and so it took a while for them to figure out that she was the culprit. Yeah, so it wasn't happening everywhere, but she killed a few people.
Speaker 1So I can kind of rest that razor blades and arcane be wasn't everything.
Speaker 2No, but maybe I mean you start talking about crazy stuff like that, then you're going to give some crazy person idea.
Speaker 1I know that's the thing. I don't know, disgusting to think about so did you used to go trick-or-treating. I loved it.
Speaker 2Well, you know, I loved to dress up, so in my family on my mother's side, Halloween was really really big, Like we, my grandmother, always had. That Was it. Is it a cauldron?
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2In the yard with dry eyes, smoked. She dressed up Like it was smoking yeah. It was a big fun day in my family, Day and night. So me and my two I only had two cousins on that side we would go trick-or-treating and we would all bring our candy back to my grandparents' house. And it would be huge amounts, right. But we only went to neighbors and our church family, right, because so we used to.
Speaker 1well, I grew up in a small town but we used to. I used to go with my cousin, who I mentioned earlier. My sister, who's two years younger than me, and my aunt would take me there and we would get like. Her grandparents on our dad's side lived in one of the neighborhoods that everyone went to. You know, every town has that good neighborhood that everyone goes to and they have the best candy and it's like a block party, you know, just all out. So we would go there every year and that's where I would rake up on my rack up on, rake up on Rack, rack up on.
Speaker 2Here we go, there's my word of the podcast Rack.
Speaker 1This week our word is rake and rack. I would rack up on candy. But that's why I would rack up on candy, and you know, I told the story. I would save my candy, eat what I wanted, save my candy and sell the rest to my brothers or all of my family, whoever.
Speaker 2Here's the thing. Okay, I would have been down for that, but I wouldn't have done that because no one had any money around me. So how did they have money to buy the candy?
Speaker 1Or would they beat it?
Speaker 2Would they shake your mom down for money?
Speaker 1Probably, if they wanted it. I don't care where they got their money from.
Speaker 2You got to pay the man. You were getting it.
Speaker 1I was getting my quarter nickel, whatever it was.
Speaker 2And they never beat you up.
Speaker 1Of course they did. They would try to beat me up for the key because I kept it all locked up. The money. I kept the money locked up and the candy locked up. Yeah, but you were mm-mm.
Speaker 2So you always had, see, I always had money and I had a money box.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, me too. And I would count it. Uh-huh, organize it. Yeah, roll my coin.
Speaker 2Never wanted to spend it.
Speaker 1Uh-uh, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2You never took that with you. No, I stayed at home.
Speaker 1Yeah, that was my money. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I've told that story before in a previous podcast, but also thinking back to Tom's being different and maybe people still do this but did you ever go rolling? We called it rolling Some people call it TP.
Speaker 2We called it rolling.
Halloween Pranks and Childhood Memories
Speaker 1Which do you know? I was literally out of college when I really figured out what TP meant. Oh my God, because I always called it rolling Like. In Halloween we went rolling houses, where you take toilet paper, throw it in trees and roll the house. That would let me just tell you, but when? I went to college, people would call it TP, tp, and I was like y'all called it what? And I never asked why they called it TP. I think it's toilet paper.
Speaker 2If I didn't know better, I would swear you were just an idiot, Like how would you know? I never made the connect.
Speaker 1I didn't call it that, but damn, I never knew I would be like these Yankees are weird.
Speaker 2Stop telling this stuff on the podcast. I mean, that just sounds bad.
Speaker 1I know, so did people still go rolling TP, I haven't seen any houses.
Speaker 2Well, let me just tell you, I don't have a habit Come roll your house at the loft.
Speaker 1You're going to walk out and the bushes are going to be covered, okay.
Speaker 2I as an adult. That is one thing that would piss me off.
Speaker 1Okay, because it's a mess. It is a mess.
Speaker 2And it lingers for months.
Speaker 1Especially if it rains right afterwards.
Speaker 2And if you used expensive paper it lasts in the trees forever. If you use the cheap, it kind of Melted quicker. But you get that three-ply quilted.
Speaker 1Oh, I mean, I can remember going and stocking up, like our parents would take us to stock up on the toilet paper and we knew whose houses. Sometimes they helped, my mom would help, just depending on who. I mean, it was a whole fun thing. I guess it's kind of different than now. I don't know, maybe it's not different, but it was fun back then. But even on Halloween in our town you would go to buy it and it would say limit three packs or something.
Speaker 2Because then you'd be like run on toilet paper. It wasn't like that. That was some Tennessee shit there.
Speaker 1But we had a I won't say, but we had a house that we would roll and they would. I'm just going to say I was going to kind of describe it, but let's just say there was a house we would roll and the mom would make the kids bag it all up and they would use it the toilet paper.
Speaker 2That is disgusting. Are you serious? I'm serious. Do I know that neighbor?
Speaker 1No, have I met them? No, no. If you're listening, that's nasty, but I mean, I guess it's just hankin' in the trees, why not?
Speaker 2Who's going to power all that in their bathroom? That would look so trashy. That would drive me insane.
Speaker 1Yeah, it would me too. Also. Another memory Back in the day did y'all used to like throw eggs or water balloons at cars? I never did that, which is so dangerous thinking about it now.
Speaker 2And it ruins an egg, ruins the paint on a car.
Speaker 1And imagine it hitting a car.
Speaker 2I mean my car Cars were built different. Back then I got my car egged at McDonald's one time about employees. Oh, they were pissed at you, mm hmm, Brand. I had a brand new red, cheap Cherokee.
Speaker 1This wasn't when you were an owner, because you fired everybody. Were you a co-worker.
Speaker 2I was an assistant manager. Okay, I was at clumped, I was so pissed, but I spotted it immediately and went to the car wash. I washed it off, so it really wasn't a big thing. But I know you and your cars, yeah, and you don't like. Egging someone's house is just as bad, because that stuff will not come on.
Speaker 1Egg and it kind of bakes on Like it dries on, I guess it does, it won't.
Speaker 2It ruins paint, it won't come off. Yeah, that's bad. Times were different.
Speaker 1I should call my mom and get her on the phone and tell the story so I can remember. As a kid I would have probably been like five, no older than max six, but I was thinking, I'm thinking around five, and they were throwing I'm pretty sure it was water balloons at cars like my brothers, my mom, everyone participated. It was like a thing I guess back in the day and they hit one of the school teachers cars and she threw on the brakes and came up and like cussed everyone out.
Speaker 2She was mad about that? Yeah, because her car got hit.
Speaker 1Just a water balloon?
Speaker 2Yeah, but if you're driving down the road and something splats on your windshield, Well, I've got a better one for you on that One of my cousins I won't say who, but there's a record.
Speaker 1Oh, a record.
Speaker 2Well, he was driving down the street this was before my time, but my dad has told me this story many times and one of the teachers from the high school was raking her leaves in the yard and she was bent over.
Speaker 1Oh.
Speaker 2Lord, and he took his shotgun and shot her in the ass. But she was a bitch.
Speaker 1That is like a attempted murder. She failed him Afterward, no, before that's why he shot her. Oh my God, what do you mean? How far away.
Speaker 2He shot her with buckshot. It was a shotgun. So I mean he was just driving by with that big of a deal, I mean he was driving by. He shot her with buckshot, so it just, like you know, spread and just peppered her. Peppered her in the ass. What in the world. She was a teacher of Daniel High School, where I went to high school. Yeah.
Speaker 1And so she called the police. Oh yeah, and what charge was filed?
Speaker 2They back then. This would have been in the late 60s. Little did I know it changed the whole path of my education. It was in good way Because we had the same last name. So, yeah, at that time it wasn't like it is now. So they took him to Columbia to have him evaluated.
Speaker 1Oh, and he was just like I thought it would be funny.
Speaker 2Yeah, he was like they gave him. They diagnosed him with like a temper bad, like a mood disorder or something. Like a like he has a blackout temper. Oh Well, I mean, that's very common in my family.
Speaker 1We all have.
Speaker 2But I've never shot anyone, but so I shot my brother in the butt one time. Well, I mean it happens and but my dad, so my cut, my all my younger cousins have told me all this stories and they breezed through high school.
Speaker 1They had no issues after that, oh, so it was just pass some, just get out of here.
Speaker 2Get those mercs out of here. Don't mess with them.
Speaker 1Yeah, oh my gosh, that's hilarious. I think you know I later had the teacher that got the water balloon. I had her in high school.
Speaker 2Miss Anderson. Yes, miss Anderson, if you're out there, pretty sure that was her name, miss Anderson. Uh-huh.
Speaker 1I had her in high school.
Speaker 2Did you tell her you did it.
Speaker 1No, but I'm sure she remembered, I don't know. So I shot my brother in the butt one time with a BB gun.
Speaker 2I mean, was it like a painful? Thing, Like a real like embedded in his ass. Like yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1I mean it was painful because I shot him like three feet in front of me with the BB gun. Oh, because so we had another, a different neighbor that was a neighbor friend. The kid was right in between my brothers to brother's age, so they were all friends and they would come over to our house, or he would come over to our house, we would go over to his house, sort of thing. Well, you know, back in the day, before cell phones and all of that, my mom would be like dinner's ready, go get. Go get your brother's, tell him it's time to time for dinner. Call, call over and tell him it's time for dinner. So I would call hey, it's time for dinner. Mom said to come home. Well, they didn't show up. Then it was call back over there and tell them to come now. Dinner's getting cold, we're not eating until they get here. Go, right, you know, go call them. So I'd call we'll be there in a minute. We're playing some game or some crap.
Speaker 1So then my mom said my mom said you have to go over there and get them and tell them to come home right now. They are in trouble if they don't come home right now. So I'm like I don't want to go get them. She's like go get them. So I'm like all right, I'm going to go get them. And you shunned. So I, on the way out, I grabbed the BB gun and I walk in there with the BB gun and I said come home now. I thought they hated you. I'm sure they did. Come home now, or I'm going to shoot you or something, and so they wouldn't like. They were like well, you know, being brothers, whatever we'll do what we want to do. So they get up and they start walking home and as soon as they stepped out the door I was so pissed I just shot him in the butt. Did you get in trouble? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't remember. I don't remember getting in trouble, I just remember shooting him in the butt.
Speaker 2So that when he called and I was in the car the other day, you should have brought that up. Do you remember when I shot you in the ass, Adrian?
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I should have, he would remember it. One of them shot me in the foot with the BB gun. I like shot my shoe, but it was so close that like put a huge like blood blister.
Speaker 2Did it hurt? Yeah, did you cry.
Halloween Traditions and Memorable Costumes
Speaker 1I'm sure I did All dramatic. They used to do that Like I got knocked out one time with a cow pillow, like pillow fight, and they would just you know so much bigger than me, they would just knock you out. I literally got knocked out.
Speaker 2That could explain a lot. Well, we used to do something bad. I'm a little embarrassed, but it happened, I did it when I was in high school. We pumpkin yards, so on Halloween night we would go in one of my friend's trucks and we would steal everybody's pumpkins. The jack-o'-lanterns I mean they were done that night, you know, because we'd go late, we would steal the jack-o'-lanterns, blow the candle out, throw it in the back of the truck, so we would have like 30, 40 pumpkins.
Speaker 1Well, you know, they didn't weigh that much Right, because they're cars and half rotted by that.
Speaker 2So we would decide who we didn't like. And we would pick like two people and just go smashing. We would go back the truck up, let the tailgate down so you couldn't see the tag, and we would. And it was dark, you know, all the lights were out and we would chunk the yard full of this.
Speaker 1Oh my gosh, can you imagine picking up all that mess?
Speaker 2And we would throw them up in the air and so they would bust Just flat. So I threw I was out there and throwing the last one and I threw it way up in the air and it came down and hit on the sidewalk and it just exploded. And when I did the light, all the lights came up. I was like go, go.
Speaker 1No one, we never got caught. That is crazy, but that's a good one. I've never heard of it, so you see, the problem with nowadays is there's too many cameras and ring like doorbells. You couldn't get away with it now. You couldn't even get away with that because they would know. First of all, all the people where you stole the pumpkins from would be reporting you, and then the person that you did it to would be reporting this to you.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, it was now one of my friends. On the last time we did, I was a senior in high school. He was kind of a delinquent. I was not.
Speaker 1Where's he today?
Speaker 2No, it's okay Well he, he's, he's actually a good guy. He stole somebody's really pretty ceramic.
Speaker 1Oh, had to be that. I was told to do that, so that's where it goes wrong, otherwise.
Speaker 2It was pretty ceramic and had a black, which is really nice. Yeah, it was. It was an expensive and we got it and they were going to throw that in somebody's yard and I was like, and I didn't know where they he stole it. I was like, absolutely not, I'm taking that home to my mom.
Speaker 2So, my dumb ass goes home with this. I did not steal it, I did not know where it went, Right, so I I was. I was seriously saving it, Right. So I went. Mom, I brought you this and she's like where did you get that?
Speaker 1And.
Speaker 2I said oh, chad, stole it from somebody's house.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And I didn't want to throw it away. So I brought it to you. She said, get that stolen stuff out of my house. So I was like, okay, so I carried it down to the basement and left it and eventually she forgot it was stolen and she would use it. That's funny. I finally donated it, I like when she passed away, I cleaned out the house I used to love before retail. Before you came into my life, yeah, I used to have fun, right, and I did Halloween parties. I loved to dress up and act full, which I still, you know, I don't have to have. It doesn't have to be Halloween, but it's more fun, right. And when I was an owner once I dressed up like an old lady, yeah, and I called myself Ruby Francis.
Speaker 1Bustford, Darlene and Ruby.
Speaker 2And I came up with this whole persona and I told everybody that I was the music director down at the Christ Church Episcopal Church and I had a black patent leather pocketbook.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2And I was a naughty old lady. We need Ruby to come out for help. I had the restaurants. This might have been after I met you, was it? Do you remember this? No, it was right before, maybe right before. So I had month-in packages delivered, everything taken care of for month-in.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2Because you know I had McDonald's. Yeah Well, I'll be damned. Something happened and I ended up having to go to the Moonville store in another one of the other restaurants and I was like oh my God, I was in full makeup dress, heels Like Ruby. Yes.
Speaker 1For Halloween.
Speaker 2I look like Mama from Mama's Family.
Speaker 1Or Medea is what I look like.
Speaker 2So I'm like oh, my God Cause, you know, I was always 1,000% professional, yeah.
Speaker 1Imagine that that's hard to believe, walking in there. Yeah.
Speaker 2And I walked behind the counter and they were like ma'am, ma'am, you can't come back here. And I was like y'all, it's me, Everybody like fell out. They were taking pictures. They were like, oh my God, that's right. I can't believe it's you. So I went to another store. I left there and went to the Powdersfield McDonald's and I think I had to drop some paperwork off there and I just got in line.
Speaker 1Oh, just like a customer.
Speaker 2And they waited on me.
Speaker 1Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2They didn't know who I was.
Speaker 1That's hilarious.
Speaker 2So yeah, then I went by a McDonald's owner party Right and I walked in and no one knew me. I was like hey y'all.
Speaker 1They were like who is this?
Speaker 2Who is this? That was my little coming out to McDonald's. All the McDonald's owners. That was funny. I was, if they didn't know Exactly, but they needed to see that side. Blow my skirt up a little bit.
Speaker 1You know. Another common Halloween thing I've never done this, though is with forks. Did you ever do the forks in the long run?
Speaker 2No, no, I mean that seemed like a lot of work In and over.
Speaker 1Stabbing a fork in there, but did they break off? Is that the thing? You can't pull them out, or what's the deal?
Speaker 2I didn't ever get that You're picking up and you have to go just pull them all out. I thought it was dumb.
Speaker 1So tell us your Halloween traditions. Call or text our hotline 864-982-5029. We want to hear what's your favorite memory or do you have a story? We have time. We could do a part two and call some of our guests. We need to do a part two. Here's some of your.
Speaker 2I one time I dressed up like. Dracula and I went to a thrift store and I bought a tux, a velvet. It was really good To look like Dracula.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And I dyed my hair jet black. I put one of those temporary Mm-hmm dyes yeah it wouldn't come out.
Speaker 1Your baby fine hair, just soaked it up.
Speaker 2It was horror. It was blue, black.
Speaker 1For how long Did it have to grow out?
Speaker 2Yeah, I had to go and try to get it bleached and then dyed and it turned bright orange. It was horrible.
Speaker 1Let's dye your hair.
Speaker 2No, I will never do that. Come on, let's dye it. No, I've never. After the end, like my hair just says pfft with any kind of tint, like I would never put those.
Speaker 1Like a colored hair sprayer.
Speaker 2No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Come on no.
Speaker 1Let's do it.
Speaker 2You can't, because I'm a true blonde. I was a toe head and my hair soaks it up like a sponge.
Speaker 1What is?
Speaker 2a toe head Like white hair.
Speaker 1Where does that come from, white hair? Where does toe head?
Speaker 2come from. I don't know where that comes from. Let me Google it.
Speaker 1Oh my gosh. Well why you're Googling that? You know what's funny? I have not dressed up for Halloween as an adult Like. The last time I would have dressed up for Halloween was like when I was probably like I don't know. When do you stop Eight or?
Speaker 2nine years old. Well, that's part of your problem. If you would like, if we would go to a Halloween party and you actually like really plan out your costume and engage, and it's so much fun.
Speaker 1Is it?
Speaker 2I miss it terribly. Well, that was my fate. That's one of my favorite things. I like like if I could celebrate Halloween. It's better than anything. You're not having to worry about gifts, You're just going out and having fun. A toe head is someone who has very light blonde hair.
Speaker 1And where does the term come from?
Speaker 2Toe head, god, that sounds weird to me, sounds wrong to me, hmm, the toe and toe head, according to Oxford English Dictionary, refers to fiber and flax, hemp or spinning. So it's like the toe, it's like the color.
Ending and Invitation for Feedback
Speaker 1Yeah, white. Well, we are so educational. That's what you get when you listen to our podcast. And speaking of that education, it's time to get out of here it is Get the hell out.
Speaker 2I'm going home. You gotta pull this thing over and let me out. Get out of here.
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Speaker 2What are some of the pranks you did on people?
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