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Two Friends Discuss Shower Habits
Speaker 1Get back in here. Did you have a little potty break? I did. Oh good, Are we still on the road? This is part two from last week. We're going to pick back up with our Q&A and whatever the hell we're talking about.
Speaker 2Yeah, we haven't had a Q&A in a minute, you know, other than last week. Right, here we go. We kind of neglected that.
Speaker 1It's time for another episode of who's Driving.
Speaker 2Welcome to who's Driving. Welcome to who's Driving. I'm Wesley Turner.
Speaker 1And I'm Stephen Merck. We're two best friends and entrepreneurs who's Driving is an entertaining look into the behind the scenes of our lives, friendship and business.
Speaker 2These are the stories we share and topics we discuss, as two best friends would on a long road trip.
Speaker 1Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer a wide range of informative topics centered around running small businesses, social media and all things home and garden.
Speaker 2Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
Speaker 1You never know who's driving or where we're headed. All we know is it's always a fun ride and, like we mentioned this week, we're going to continue on from last week, where we were answering random questions and we got all on the topic. We left off about five things you must have in your house and I think we might have sounded a little bougie.
Speaker 2We did. But you said, you asked. But, like I said, if I had to go down to a one-bedroom tiny home, I'm going to have all those things I talked about your lie-so-so fancy range is not going to fit in a one-bedroom. Tiny house, not the range, is not a must for me, I'm just talking.
Speaker 1I'd have to have my ice machine, my good sheets, your ice machine is going to be a countertop plug-in in your one-bedroom tiny house, like we have in our flower room. That's how we get our ice. But we get tired of it because we only plug it in, probably in the month of July. Well, we already made it through July. We didn't even plug it in this year, so I don't know.
Speaker 2We need an ice machine too. You do need to get. I'm telling you, it's life changing.
Speaker 1Before we get back into the topic of questions, random questions we were asked. I do have a riddle for you.
Speaker 2I've got one for you too. I love it.
Speaker 1We've been on the riddle train. I love riddles. Yes, all right. So people buy me to eat. I wrote it down wrong. People buy me to eat, but never eat me. What am I? People buy me to eat but never eat me. What am I? People buy me to eat but never eat me. What am I?
Speaker 2A fork.
Speaker 1Now that I'm thinking about that, that could answer.
Speaker 2Spoon.
Speaker 1A plate was the whatever.
Speaker 2But now that.
Speaker 1I say it out loud, I'm like well, that could be a fork, a plate, a cup, a spoon, yeah, Anything, okay.
Speaker 2Well, I kind of got it. Yeah, I kind of got it.
Speaker 1Yeah, you did. I give that one to you. That one has more than one answer.
Speaker 2now that I think about it, yeah, I gave you one like that.
Speaker 1Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2What you got for me. What does the letter T and an island have in common? A T and an island have in common Let. A, t and an island have in common.
Speaker 1Let the letter T and an island have in common, Like the landmass an island, an island, i-l-a-n-d Island.
Speaker 2Well, it's I-S-L-A-N-D. Yeah, I mean I-S. You know what I mean? The letter. T and an island have in common, huh, a letter.
Speaker 1T, dum, dum, dum, dum. My gosh, that's a good one actually, oh my gosh, that is okay, that's a pretty good one, I thought. That's a pretty good one.
Speaker 2I mean that doesn't follow like the riddle train of thought as much, but I give that one to you. You're giving me a lot. That you know. I got the one you gave me. Right, you didn't get that one, that's true. So you're really not giving me.
Speaker 1No, I'm just saying, sometimes they're corny ones. That one's not really corny, I'm just like oh, it's really like. I guess it's a riddle. Good one, good job, good one. You did it, girl. That is so good of you. You really stumped me, yeah so hard. Oh, my goodness, I saw on, I think, social media. I'm pretty sure this would have been a TikTok thing. That I saw Someone brought up the question in the comments flabbergasted me. I must say what the question was how often do you shower?
Speaker 2And oh, I can answer that very and I can. I'll tell you exactly how I Listen. I'm a clean.
Speaker 1This was a hot little topic.
Speaker 2Other than my towel situation, which Dylan almost died over me telling him about my towel washing or lack thereof. So that has been completely corrected.
Speaker 1Okay, we've corrected it.
Speaker 2What are we?
Speaker 1down to every three days. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2Can we get?
Speaker 1that down to like every other day.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1Then that's impractical Okay.
Speaker 2I shower, I have to shower and you are. You and I are the same way. I am not prepared to face my day without a shower no, I don't care, not start my day without a shower.
Speaker 1Like my body will not function without me starting the day with a shower.
Speaker 2If I do not shower, it's going to be a stay at home all day and work in the office day, because I can't, oh, but see for me I can't even mentally get in the space to come work in the office unless I've showered.
Speaker 1I have to Like. The only way I will not shower in a day is if I'm like in the bed, either just sick or, uh, just totally sleeping but I don't know when, like aftermarket yeah, or something like that, but then I'm still gonna get up and take a shower before I like eat dinner or something like I can't like. A shower is the equivalent of you must put on your shoes, to leave the house, to go outside.
Speaker 2But the funny thing is, dylan is not a morning shower, he is a nighttime. And then he gets up, washes his face, shaves, wets his hair, fixes his hair. And I can't do it.
Speaker 1I have to have not just from the cleanliness standpoint, I have to have the stimulation of the shower. Where the water hit me, I processed all of my thoughts for the day, like all of that has to happen. I've been that way since I was a kid.
Speaker 2Yeah, now when I tan, when I'm using self-tanner. So you know, like when I hurt my back several weeks ago, I could not bend to put my self-tanner on, so I quit doing that, so I was just doing my shower every morning. Yeah, you know, unless I got dirty doing something, Right, yeah?
Speaker 1I don't always shower in the evening.
Speaker 2I don't, unless I've been working and dirty.
Speaker 1Like if I wear, if I go to the warehouse which our warehouse isn't that dirty but if I wear shorts there, my legs always feel like sticky from the dust and stuff and I have to shower before I can go to bed.
Speaker 2But if I do my self-tanner, I do shower before I go to bed because I'm not going to let that self-tanner mess up my bedding. Get on your expensive sheet.
Speaker 1No, no, but okay. So in the comments though on this TikTok people were saying oh, every two days, every three days. They only shower two to three times a week, and some people were like y'all are wasting water showering every day. No, your cracks be smelling, but here's the thing.
Speaker 2It literally, but but I will say this A friend of mine in conversation. She has been on a and it's somebody you don't know, so don't be thinking through that. She has read how we Bathe Too Much as a society. I'm going to keep doing it Me too, but she read how bad it is for our skin, how bad everything about us. We're not supposed to shower daily and she embraced that and she's trying to do it like once a week.
Speaker 2Hell no, I'm like. No, your ass has to be kicking. I mean I'm sure she does like hits the hot spots kind of with a washcloth.
Speaker 1I'm hoping uh, uh, no animal, the dang dog cleans itself every day, licking like. I can see where you say I I'm going to shower without soap or something. Maybe you're going to get in there and exfoliate, scrub it. I don't know what you're going to do, or maybe a less harsh soap or something.
Speaker 2I get not washing your hair every day, just like running the water through it, but if you're not showering, like the back of your ears get soured. I mean, it's just everything all those little crevices your armpit your belly button your, your boobs, the crap all of it no one wants to smell I can't, I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1I was blown away, though, by like I thought. I thought showering every single day was like what everyone did.
Speaker 2Well, you know one of, well a lot of my neighbors are doctors because of the hospital being close by, and, um, one of my neighbors is an avid well, he moved but he's an avid camper like major camping, like out in the middle of um parks, national parks, where there's nothing there, yeah and I'm like, um, how do you wash your ass? And he's like well, we buy this underwear that you only want you only have to wash once a week and that we just kind of go natural, no.
Speaker 1No, no, no.
Speaker 2Let us know, and he goes with his wife.
Shower Habits and Flight Training
Speaker 1We will not judge you maybe, but this is to me like the towel thing how often do you take a shower? Text us. You have to text us or call and leave us a voicemail, either, whatever works for you. Our hotline number is 864-982-5029. It's down in the show notes below, but I'm going to tell you one more time because I want to hear this 864-982-5029. How often do you shower regularly, your regular routine? Now I know people can be like oh, I've been on vacation at home over the holidays and next thing I knew it'd been three days since I showered.
Speaker 1That doesn't count. What is your regular routine? How often do you shower? That's what I want to know, because I was just taken aback.
Speaker 2And if you only shower every three or four days, how is your pits not kicking?
Speaker 1That's what I was going to say, and I wouldn't even like the feel it would drive me, the feel of the buildup of deodorant of two or three days, even if you put deodorant on every day, but surely they're washing their hot spots with a washcloth?
Speaker 2I don't think so.
Speaker 1No that's not what it sounded like. How do you Let us know if you are? I know some of you are listening and like, oh, I only shower every three days. Do you hit the hot spots, or is it just like you wash and then you don't think about it again for three days?
Speaker 2And my friend that has adopted this, you know, after what she read is a very, very clean, nice, smelling normal.
Speaker 1I mean somebody I've known for 35 years and but you know I'm like I was going to say I guess I could see you know working from home now and you don't leave your house, but still you just feel dirty and nasty. I can't get down with that?
Speaker 2No, I would be soured.
Speaker 1Yeah, now washing our hair. I don't know if we've talked about this. We started using wind shampoo like years ago like I don't know 10 years ago or so and it's not like a soap. It know it's almost like a lotion. You know it's like a lotion texture. It doesn't foam and I only wash my hair like every 10 days. I wet it every day and I'll let the water run through it and get any product out. You're not supposed to wash it, but I only wash my hair every like 7 to 10 days.
Speaker 2I used to wash mine daily until and you know, I use Winn too. I use Winn as a strip. I use it to strip my hair.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Because that's what it does it strips. It strips crap off your hair.
Speaker 1But it doesn't take the oils and stuff out.
Speaker 2No, no, no, no the bad stuff, it dissolves it kind of. Yeah, so I use that, but I don't, you know, I don't and I don't use. I just use that like every, like twice a month, and then I wash my hair maybe every three or four days.
Speaker 1I don't use anything on my hair except for Winn Haven't for years, unless when I go to get it cut and they wash it. And it made such a big difference in my hair Like the texture in my hair, you know it just made my hair so much better.
Speaker 2Winn is good, but I do in my hair, you know. It just made my hair so much better when it's good, but I do even though I use other products in it and I just rinse my hair out every day. But but so you have really really you know everybody has something.
Speaker 1You have stinky pits right, so they're under control, just so you know.
Speaker 2But you would be gross if you didn't shower daily. Oh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1Yes, I feel like my pits have toned down in the last year and a half. They'll flare up sometimes and I'm like what's going?
Speaker 2on Something you ate.
Speaker 1Something I ate, or something like that. The good thing is, though, since y'all are learning too much information about me, that's the only thing like my feet never stink.
Speaker 2Mine don't either.
Speaker 1Nothing else on me stinks but my pits will. I wonder if I got Botox in my pits, if that would help.
Speaker 2I couldn't handle that.
Speaker 1If that would help.
Speaker 2That would hurt.
Speaker 1With the smell.
Speaker 2Yeah Well, I don't know if it would stop the smell, but it would stop the sweat.
Speaker 1But I don't sweat. You remember I went through a period we're not going to get into it and that's really when I started wearing black shirts every, every, every day where my pits would sweat. I could not get them under control.
Speaker 1So gross I know it was weird. I'm not going to get into what caused it or why I think they did that, but it lasted for like a year that they just I mean, I would get out of the shower and if I didn't have a shirt on, they would start dripping Like I would be like, why are my? It was like water running off of them here, I don't know Anyway.
Speaker 2And you know I'm obsessed with being clean. I love colognes. I like smelling good.
Speaker 1Yeah. I don't want to be dirty or stinky and like on the I mean just in general on the subject of showering every day, like sometimes it's twice a day, like daniel and I mean because he's here working on the farm sometimes he showers like three or four times a day, like he'll go out in the morning and then come in at lunch, especially if it's hot, and take a shower when they get lunch.
Speaker 2And then, yeah, it revives you. Yeah, and I, you know, when I do something physical, like if I'm working at the and if I work at the garden store and I've been planting and stuff, I have to go home and shower because I feel like I have dirt and dust all over and I do yeah you know, you take your underwear off and moss and dirt falls out of it. That's true, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1Balls and dirt falling Balls out of it. That's true, oh my goodness. Okay, so that was just something I saw on social media TikTok I believe. But going back to our Q&A from last week picking up there, was there anything else you wanted to add to the house the top five things or did we kind of cover it?
Speaker 2I think we covered it.
Speaker 1I don't think we equally gave 10 things, but that was some of our favorite things that you must have. One of the common questions I got in the question box was how is my flight training going? Not so, I haven't flown since. I haven't had training since December and I'm very like it is something I think about every day because I want to do it and I want to finish it. And I'm very like it is something I think about every day because I want to do it and I want to finish it and I'm going to.
Speaker 1But now I'm going to have to kind of start back over because it's been so long. I got my medical license and clearance and that was the next step, but at the same time, by the time I got that done, we were in the middle of having to move warehouses and work just got in the way and I wanted so. After it had been with the warehouse and stuff, I wanted to be at a time where I'm like okay, I can fly like every day or every other day for like two weeks and like really knock out.
Speaker 2Realistically you should pick it up like next spring.
Speaker 1I know, so that's why I'm like.
Speaker 2And get it done in the summer.
Speaker 1Right, so anyway. So the flying thing is on hold. I miss it, I love it and I want to do it.
Speaker 2And I've never started. I know, but I need to.
Speaker 1I know you do need to. It is so cool.
Speaker 2It started with. That's always been my dream.
Speaker 1And then all of a sudden you said oh, I want to do it, I know, and so here we are.
Speaker 2But I need to do it, I want to do it, I love to fly.
Speaker 1I know, maybe we could find our own pilot, you know, instructor, we could share one or something.
Speaker 2Well, I have one, you know oh yeah, you do.
Speaker 1Does she still do yeah?
Speaker 2I need to call her. I just showed her house on Wednesday.
Speaker 1I need to call her and I feel like someone that I can get in like a routine with. I love the one, the instructor that I was working with, but see they, I think he's still there right now if I went back, but by the time I go back he'll be moved on.
Speaker 2She's super cool.
Speaker 1A lot of the instructors are there to get hours before their next step.
Speaker 2And she designs. She designs airports and landing strips and all that kind of stuff. So, she's in a different part of the industry.
Speaker 1That's what I'm saying. So she just does that on the side, and I would really love to learn how to fly from a woman.
Speaker 2She's smart.
Speaker 1I don't know. I've tried to find I like where I go, but it's so awkward to switch between. For me they say it's not to switch between instructors or whatever, but if I restart in my instructor now it's not there. If he was there I would pick up with him. He was really good. But if I have to find a new one, I'm going to find a woman.
Speaker 2I'm going to use Katie I feel like a woman would be.
Speaker 1I don't know. You know we're used to women and connecting and talking and it's very personal and you got to have this trust level in there when you're learning, so I don't know. I just feel like a woman would be fun and good and thorough. I feel like women are very thorough. They are In planning and thorough, I feel like women are very thorough.
Speaker 1They are In planning and teaching, and not that men aren't. We've talked about that before Women and McDonald's and how that helps. You know whatever. But anyway, I just feel like I want to learn they have great attention to detail. Yes, they do. I mean, I feel like they're better in that situation in a training and maybe it just goes back to you know, in school most teachers are women.
Speaker 2And they're better with their hands, but I feel, like you can ask questions more.
Speaker 1I don't know, it's just more comforting. I want a woman.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's not as intimidating.
Speaker 1I also want to go back and I really want to go to someone and almost pretend. I don't need to pretend, I guess, but I want to start back at the beginning, like, start me, like I'm a brand new student and do like this recap segment too.
Speaker 2Anyway, we can talk about that later. Well, I think that's good to do.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean it doesn't hurt and it builds your hours. You got to have the hours anyway, no, and?
Speaker 2you're kind of remedial anyway, generally speaking, A remedial person.
Speaker 1So it's good to put you.
Speaker 2I think it's good to just embrace Mechanically and yeah, but I mean, you know any other scholastic Step?
Speaker 1point oh, my goodness Okay.
Speaker 2You're below grade level.
Speaker 1It probably is, who knows?
Speaker 1no, I'm who knows, I'm kidding another random question we got, but I thought it was a funny one because I wanted you to answer this gosh, do either of you still stay in contact with high school friends and what do they think about your success? So I'll go first while you think about yours. I do not stay in contact with any high school friends, like I don't even do Facebook. I feel like that's where you keep more. Well, I guess people use all social media as difference, but here's how it worked for me. I used to have like a personal page on Facebook and that's kind of where I would see people that I grew up with People.
Speaker 1I went to college with more friends and then I, when I got on Instagram and it became well, I got on there to document us renovating the farm and that sort of thing. That's when I fell into, if you want to call it an influencer or whatever. But I didn't follow on Instagram. I don't follow friends and family. Really I mean very few. I follow design accounts, you know farm accounts, flower farm accounts, so, and that's where I spend all of my time. So I really I haven't been on Facebook in years, so I really disconnected from all of the social media part where it was keeping up with like friends and stuff.
Speaker 1So I just and I mean I didn't really like any of those people. I mean, if you're listening, I'm not talking about you, but I'm scared. Is there anyone from my past high school or college that listens to this? Text me on my hotline eight six, four, nine, eight, two, five zero two nine.
Speaker 2that'd be funny it would be funny like I'm here listening yeah, well, he didn't like you no, it's not that it, it is.
High School Friend Perceptions of Success
Speaker 1But it is. No, what really it is. I've moved so like I grew up in Tennessee.
Speaker 2You moved so far away.
Speaker 1Yeah, I grew up in a small town in West Tennessee outside of Memphis and then I went to Mississippi State in Mississippi and I moved there to Atlanta, so I've kind of left these like segments. And then I moved to Greenville, but I moved to Greenville in 2005. So that's a long time. I mean we're going almost. Is that almost 20 years?
Speaker 2We're past. Wait, you're, you're, you're going on 25 years 2005. No 20 years since 2005. But I'm saying since you've been out of high school.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I've been out of high school. Yeah, no, I'm saying since I moved to Greenville. So the people that I keep up with are green, like when I moved here. You develop your new, you know circle or whatever, so I haven't kept up with the high school people. I graduated high school in 99.
Speaker 2So, yes, we're going, I'm still friends with a number Of your, because you didn't move as far, you just moved. I didn't move as far, but now I will tell you this. So, and you know, the people that I'm still close with actually listen to this, so they know who they are.
Speaker 1We need to give a shout out to someone. I saw on the hotline over there. It was like Steven.
Speaker 2Shut up.
Speaker 1I didn't know you had a podcast.
Speaker 2I mean I should put it out there On Facebook, probably you know, but I'm like I just want people to find it organically. Yeah, hear all the dirty tea. That's funny. But yeah, I'm friends Organically.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Hear all the dirty tea that's funny.
Speaker 1But yeah, I'm friends. I too do not put our podcast out on any of those.
Speaker 2I mean, I put it on Instagram, but if you don't follow me on Instagram.
Speaker 1But a lot of my family probably they don't know.
Speaker 2I don't, I don't, I'm like.
Speaker 1They don't know that I have a podcast.
Speaker 2Some of my very close does.
Speaker 1I do, and all of Daniel's family Shout out. They all listen to it.
Speaker 2Yeah, and a lot of my family listen. Yeah, you know, but yes, I still have friends from high school that I stay in touch with and it's you know, it's a smaller segment of people. There's a couple people that I just had to cut out. Um, I'm being serious, just very, very negative. Remember that one girl oh no job so we're not gonna call a name um, but we were friends talking about cut out we were friends, friends since like first grade and you know. And it's funny that they ask what was the whole question.
Speaker 1Do either of you still stay in contact with high school friends, and what do they think of your success?
Speaker 2Okay, that was the problem my success or her perception of my success. I don't walk around, If you know me. I do not walk around like, oh, I'm such a success.
Speaker 1I don't even feel like a success.
Speaker 2That's not who I am, so I don't want that to be perceived that way. But since that was the question, the issue was her perceived perception of my success, and it was just it. It was bizarre, wouldn't you say, wesley, it was yeah, and she was very jealous very jealous she, uh, but everyone in your life.
Speaker 1She would be like they're out to get your money. Yeah they're just they're just friends with you like, because you have money to be your only friend only friend and she would get very jealous if you talked to anyone else, and then, and I'm only talking to you if you didn't have money, they wouldn't be your friend.
Speaker 2I mean mean, I thought that was mean yeah, and I'm like you're not worthy of being some and I'm like okay, first of all, all of my friends. You know that I have developed over the years.
Speaker 2If you're friends with me, damn, you know I'm cheap as hell you are not you are not friends with me because I have anything and and and none of my friends could tell you what I have anyway, because I don't even talk about it and I don't know what she thought I have. She thought she thinks I'm a like billionaire, right, and it's ridiculous and it just got to be um way too much and almost stalkerish.
Perceptions of Success and Accomplishment
Speaker 1Yes, it became very weird. But you did have to. I forgot about that.
Speaker 2And one person from high school and college actually I thought this was really sweet, and it was a straight male, which was even more interesting said one day to me, said this is after I bought my first McDonald's. He said can I have one of your business cards? And I said well, yeah, you have my contact information. I said why do you want a card? And he said I just want to keep it because it's a reminder that you're the only person I know from school that actually accomplished their dream. I thought that was sweet.
Speaker 2That is very sweet, Because you know that was my dream and I thought, well, that was nice, but yeah, I still all the good people you know that are out there and they all support me for the right reasons and I love them for it and I want them in my life and you know I'm proud for their successes and I think they're proud of mine.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's funny when I see reading that question in general, not just the do we stay in contact, but in what do they think of your success? Because does anyone like I don't? I know I'm not doing bad, I'm not discounting what we do, but I don't feel like I've done anything special to be like oh, he's so successful Me either. I've never thought that.
Speaker 2I don't feel that.
Speaker 1I don't feel that and I'm always thinking. I'm always just focused on what I'm doing next. We legitimately have fun and that sort of thing too, but for someone I mean, obviously this person that wrote this also perceives us as successful, and I know many people do. I'm not saying that also perceives us as successful, and I know many people do. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2But Now I'm very thankful for what I have accomplished Right, but I do not feel. I don't feel accomplished.
Speaker 1Does anyone I guess is what I'm saying wake up and go like, hot damn, I'm successful, I've done it, I have made it. I have made it. I mean, I have days where I am so thankful that and I will be riding in my car and I'm like, I am so thankful, Like I do not have to struggle for like a memory will pop up. You know I talked about, you know, like not being able to afford gas or something and I don't have that struggle or whatever, but so that is successful, but you don't as a person. Does anyone really feel?
Speaker 2Oh, I think some people do. Now I do not feel that way and I've told you. You know I can remember, you know my mom was single mom and she struggled. She worked three jobs, you know, to pay a mortgage and do all the things. And I can remember, you know, going to the grocery store back in the day. You paid cash or you wrote a check. There were no credit cards or anything like that.
Speaker 1We had to put things back. Yes, I know.
Speaker 2And I can remember thinking please, god don't, I just want to be where. I don't have to do that. And do you know what? Thankfully, to this day, I have never had to put anything back.
Speaker 1Isn't that funny, though as a kid that was a huge thing. But if you went to the grocery store right now and you had to put something back, would that really bother you? No, because I can buy whatever I want, I know. But.
Speaker 2I'm just saying, but that was scarring to me and so I've always said you know, if I see somebody in that situation, I'm buying all their groceries. I mean seriously, I will do that for them. And so in that way I think I'm very successful and thankful and appreciative.
Speaker 1But no.
Speaker 2I don't, ever, I've never.
Speaker 1There's all levels of success. That's the thing.
Speaker 2Like you know what I'm saying, I've never sat around and go, you know, said, oh, I'm the shit and I don't even mean success.
Speaker 1From that standpoint, I guess what I'm saying I'm not saying it from like a big headed standpoint. I just feel like I'm doing what I have to do to survive and I don't feel like anything that I've done is special. So I don't feel like it's like oh, you're such a big success. I just feel like, oh, I get up and do a job and this is what I've done. Like, oh, I get up and do a job and this is what I've done, and I don't, and I'm always like, well, what do I got?
Speaker 2to do to keep it going next week, next month, next year?
Speaker 1How do I keep it on the tracks? And I don't feel like there's never, like, oh my gosh, I'm doing it, I'm successful. And I'm not saying, like I said, from a big headed standpoint or anything like that, I just I'm in the moment of this is what I got to do to live and keep making money and keep the businesses going and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2And it's survival.
Speaker 1It doesn't feel like a success.
Speaker 2I don't know how to say that it's weird. It's weird.
Speaker 1It's like I don't feel like or perceive that I've done anything special.
Speaker 2And that's the way it was with me owning McDonald's. It didn't feel like it didn't feel any different to me at year five from year 30. Because for 30 years I did the same thing.
Speaker 1It was just the next step.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was all the next steps and I guess the thing, the most relevant current thing is with franchising.
Speaker 1I think I told you this. I was like we put in energy to our business with, like you said, we spoke it to happen, but we put in elements like we want to franchise one day. That's our goal, like what is a long-term goal, we want to franchise. We want to franchise one day we would, or one day you know you're talking about that. And then it happened. We have our first franchisee, but there was no moment like in your mind you think, when I get to that we franchise, it's going to be some kind of moment, but that doesn't happen. It was just like, oh, they want to do this, okay, what do we have to do? And then it's step by step and next thing you know we're like, oh, we're franchising, their store's open.
Speaker 2It's the way it is now interviewing new people. It's like oh, but.
Speaker 1but that should, and is perceived as a big success.
Speaker 2Like oh, they're doing it.
Speaker 1It is exciting, but I'm just saying it doesn't feel like, oh my gosh, we accomplished this certain thing. Now we just keep going okay, well, we got to get that store open. Okay, who's going to be our next franchisee, because we've had other people reach out? Are we going to? You just keep going on with the steps. So it doesn't feel like this moment, like you would think it would like oh my gosh, we're successful and we've done it.
Speaker 2I mean, I think it's just. I think that hard work in the all the sweat equity and energy you put into your career and building what you're building, really it really breaks down that feeling. You know what I'm saying. It's not like you know. It's not like I went to McDonald's one day and played Monopoly and won a McDonald's Right right.
Speaker 1I guess what it is is. It's such a slow or it's such a process of little moments that equal what people see as the big picture. So to you you like me or you it doesn't feel like anything special or successful, like for you starting out behind the counter as a teenager in McDonald's to owning one is crazy successful. But that was across 30 years of experience. So when you got your first McDonald's, there wasn't or maybe there was was there like this oh my gosh, I made it moment.
Speaker 2No hell no, it was like oh my God, I got to pay for this.
Speaker 1Yeah, so it doesn't feel like to you success and you know, when I sold, when I sold my restaurants, it wasn't like woohoo, right, yeah it doesn't feel like to you success.
Speaker 2And you know, when I sold, when I sold my restaurants, it wasn't like woohoo, Right, it's this payday. It was more like am I going to have enough? Oh my God, it's always been.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2And I think it's probably because we grew up without a lot of excess.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I know. For me that's probably what it is.
Speaker 1I just feel like it has to be like this monumental moment to feel like success. I don't know if that makes sense at all or whatever, but if you look back at things in the big picture of things, I'm not downgrading or disregarding that we are successful, but it doesn't to us feel like, oh, we're so successful.
Speaker 2I don't know. No, I'm just thankful. And you know what seems what I am most thankful of out of everything, you know, when you, the older you get, the more you look at it is just having enough, just enough, because that's all you need, is enough. Right, and I'm so. I'm really most thankful for my help and just having enough, because, at the end of the day, it doesn't. You don't need any more than enough. I mean, I know, that's kind of deep, but when you really think of it, well, I want a little extra.
Speaker 1But I mean really I mean, yeah, I need little extra.
Speaker 2All we need is enough, it is true, and everybody's enough is different.
Speaker 1That is true and that goes back to I think you and I have had this conversation, but Daniel and I certainly have with employees. You know everyone lives at different levels and everyone's enough to them and what level they want to be at is different than than other people.
Speaker 1Yeah, and it as employers we have had. We've had it in our company, daniel's had it in his company. When you see this potential in people that could really you're like if they would just give it what I know they have more, 10% more their career, they could like give it what I know they have 10% more, 10% more their career, they could be up here and they don't. And that's what I've talked about with Daniel is that's because their enough is enough. Their enough is not the same as what our enough is and what you see they could be doing they don't care to do more.
Drive for Success and Challenge Pursuits
Speaker 1They don't want to. They don't have the want. They don't care to do more, they don't want to. They don't have the want. They don't have the care they don't have.
Speaker 2And the difference between the difference between good and great, is so small, right, but so much like it just takes that extra little bit of effort that the majority of people out there are not going to give it.
Speaker 1Right For whatever. The majority of people out there are not going to give it right for whatever, but it's be. It can also be because they are there. Like you said, they're enough is different. They don't want that. They don't need to go to that extra level. Right, because they don't want. They don't have that desire like some people, just don't have that they're not wired, not wired like that. Right, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1And they don't want any nicer things because it doesn't mean anything to them. It's like how I don't you know you like cars, for example.
Speaker 2I love cars.
Speaker 1I am fine with whatever cranks and gets me down the road.
Speaker 2And I, you know, I just bought this game, oh, my gosh, we're going to start drawing cards on the podcast.
Speaker 1Did you bring this game with?
Speaker 2you. I did not bring it with me, but the next podcast we're going to draw, we're going to do this with our listeners.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2This is a great game. It's a deep game. It's not a shallow game. Yeah, but you know everybody, every person is different and, like to me, I can't understand why you wouldn't want to be on a different plateau, whatever that is Like. I didn't want to have to worry about paying my bills or buying groceries. Now, did I exceed that plateau? Yes, but my goal?
Speaker 1I didn't set out, I don't, I don't I don't even know how to word it Like I've never. I've never been a person that is satisfied. Sitting idle period, wired. We're not we're. That's gonna sound bad if I say we're never satisfied. Career wise right, but if we reach one level, we want the next level, not in a not in a monetary sense in a greedy sense, it's just like.
Speaker 1That's what drives us, because if we stay, if we reach this level and we stay flat, we are bored and we'll just wither away. That's not how we, we, we can't get enough of doing like in career and stuff. That's why we couldn't stop at one retail store. We could have lived off of one retail. No, we're not gonna stop at that. That's too boring. We're gonna have two retail stores well, it was like one mcdonald's.
Speaker 2I couldn't stop at one. I was even contemplating because I didn't want to relocate. So I was really trapped with one for four years and I was so bored I contemplated selling.
Speaker 1Because it wasn't a challenge.
Speaker 2It wasn't a challenge and I didn't want to move. You know I, you know I went to McDonald's and I was like, come on, yeah, like I can't do this Right, I've got to have more. And they knew that, they knew that about me, they knew how I was wired in and all worked itself out so I could get more. But then when I got more you know their more and my more were two different things you know their more was they wanted me to own 20. My more was good with five or six. And then you have to decide, right, what do I want to do?
Speaker 1Right, but that's just the drive, that's in us as humans and see other people don't have that, and that's why I was going. We couldn't just stop at one retail store, let's do another one. We couldn't stop at two, let's do online. Like oh, we can't stop at that. Let's franchise. But we will not stop or we will be bored as hell. It's not a challenge. The challenge is what drops us.
Speaker 2And that's the difference between being successful and not being successful, I think, is getting back up. Yeah, If you get knocked down, you get. You get your ass back up and keep going.
Speaker 1You keep going, I guess. But it is going back to what you said. Everyone's enough for them is very different, because some people, you know, uh, on the farm, in our businesses we've had like, huh, they could get this, they could take on. We've had people we've offered this next step role. Oh, I don't want to do that that's too much that's too much.
Speaker 1I'm like you're getting a pay increase, you already know how to do it, you have the potential, like you could literally do it, and it makes no difference, you're practically already doing it. Oh, I don't want that title, but they don't want it. They're enough where their living is comfortable for them.
Speaker 2I do not get that person at all.
Speaker 1But I think it's okay I can get that person because their. But I think it's okay I can get that person because their priorities are different than mine and yours.
Speaker 2It used to frustrate me. Our priorities.
Speaker 1we love business and being entrepreneurs and that's our lifestyle. We've talked about that on the podcast. That is our lifestyle, whereas those people not saying them in a bad way their priority is not pouring it into their job and doing that and making more money is not successful to them. They would rather like no. I don't want that responsibility. I want to leave at this time and I want to go home and my priorities are you know.
Speaker 2Well, I had employees I'm talking people that worked for me for 25 years and their job was not even management. Their job was working on the front counter. And I'm not talking dumb people, I'm talking bright, nice people with potential. But you know, be it a housewife or you know a mom that worked in between, but that's not what that person wanted and it blew my mind.
Speaker 1It does, it blows my mind.
Speaker 2I mean, we've run into that several times in working with employees.
Speaker 1I mean, I've gone to you and been like I'm so frustrated because this person could be so good if they would, just but they don't want it. They don't want it. And we've talked to them. They're like, eh, I don't want it. Yeah.
Speaker 2It was that way. That's what really got me in McDonald's. You know, in my teens and 20s I'm going to be completely honest I wanted to be on McDonald's for the shallow reasons I wanted to be rich. That was my path to rich and success Right Then you get in your 30s for me and it became something way different and a lot deeper than that.
Speaker 2It was more like I can give back, I can help people, I can do what was done for me. You know I can. I can pass it along, yeah, and what really was frustrating for me along the path was the people that were just basically like no thanks, I'm good and I'm like you're not.
Speaker 1Yeah you're not, you're not, that's true you.
Speaker 2They just didn't want it.
Speaker 1So true, but you know I have.
Speaker 2Well, I'm not going to lie, but those people probably sleep a lot better than I do.
Speaker 1Probably. They're not worrying about anything and you and I will probably fall over dead in the middle of a lab cell or something working to the day we die. Well, I've said my intent is but that's why we enjoy working and doing what we do.
Speaker 2And my intent is I plan to work at least to lunch on the day of my funeral. That is my goal.
Speaker 1That is funny.
Speaker 2My dad said that is hilarious. My dad's funny. He's like you are the only person I know that's got to one day retire from being retired. I'm like you know. I made that mistake once and said I was going to semi-retire. I will never make that mistake again.
Speaker 1It's not me. Yeah, I know I'll be trying to push something to the last minute. Maybe we could have a little sale at my funeral, you might see me Listen, when I just can't do it for myself anymore.
Speaker 2you might see me at Starbucks. I'm not saying Right. Or in the McDonald's drive-thru. I promise you, I can still do it.
Speaker 1You can't keep up with that.
Speaker 2You can't push those buttons.
Speaker 1I could no, ma'am, I could steal, I bet you I could, the people they have I could run circles around them we need to find an owner that you still know, and let us, let you come work through the job through. I can, I Can we film that as a segment that would be fun. Can we both get jobs for a day at McDonald's drop through?
Speaker 2I bet you. Okay, here's the deal. We need an evening job, though we will make a donation to the Ronald House. Yes, he's president of the Ronald House and I can make this happen. We need a little segment.
Speaker 1I know I can do it.
Speaker 2Maybe you should. I know I can do it. Yeah, I don't know if you could, but I can. I'll ask.
Speaker 1He, just he, can hire me for a day and I'll donate all the money to the back.
Speaker 2Yeah, or something.
Speaker 1Yeah, something and Dylan could come film it. That would be.
Speaker 2We need a little come film it. We need a little.
Speaker 1We need a segment of you running the drive-thru. I want to be.
Speaker 2I want to be the one on the speaker because I listen. I can help you Listen, I'm a pro. No, that is not the way you do it. Order, no, no, no, no. Repeat Wesley broke my heart today. I got here to do the podcast and there's no way to get here without driving past one of my old McDonald's and I said, ooh, there is a new air conditioning unit sitting out there and that's $20,000. I was like, ooh, you know, that was one of those moments.
Speaker 1I'm glad, oh, I'm glad that's not my money oh, that damn unit's been sitting in the part in the drive-thru line it's blocking a drive-thru lane it's been sitting there for at least a month see, that makes me want to just stop and it's all in the crate and everything and see, I don't know this owner at all, but I'm like how this owner, this one, is from Kentucky. What we should do is just go apply for jobs and not even tell them you could video me, I could video you.
Speaker 2They wouldn't know, and then we'll just quit after a couple of days. It would be funny, but you know we would be the best they have.
Speaker 1We would end up right in the place.
Speaker 2You know, when I got there, you know my first dad would be like excuse me, I need you in your place. When I put the store manager into a position, they would be like wait a minute.
Speaker 1What's going on here?
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And get these windows clean.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm sick of it. I've looked at these for seven damn years.
Speaker 1Oh my gosh, that would be so funny.
Speaker 2I would love to do that, but, yeah, we should do that one day and I need, I need. There's other things I need. You know I am down. I am down to just a few trash bags. Oh, do you used to get them from there.
Speaker 1Those are my run over trash bags that is hilarious, yes, hilarious, yes, oh my gosh, yes, I'm down to just a few. Oh my gosh, that is too funny.
Speaker 2Dylan was like I've never seen trash bags like this. I'm like Is it those clear?
Speaker 1just.
Speaker 2They're black, okay, they're in a roll and it's like I mean, I can't remember how much it was. It was like $16 for like hundreds Of trash bags.
Speaker 1Oh my gosh, yeah, that's too funny. Oh, okay, we're going to have to pull this baby over and wrap this up. We really got off the tracks we cleaned out some ditches.
Speaker 2I don't know what it is, but I hope everyone's having a great week.
Speaker 1Remember to leave us a review wherever you're listening to our podcast, and we would love to hear your feedback on our hotline 864 982-5029. When we get back so we recorded these Daniel and I are headed to the beach. You're headed to Hilton Head. We're going to see you doing some things in Savannah maybe. Yes, I don't know what we're going to do. We're going to be in Florida right now. We're leaving in a couple of days. There's a potential. You know, tropical something, something headed that way. You know, we survived one together.
Speaker 1We might be riding one out down there. We'll have to see. We'll touch base when we get back, we'll pick up our car ride and we'll be talking about what we did over our break.
Speaker 2I'll be on the cameras looking to see. That's what I do when we have storms that go through. I'm like let me see if I see my house fly away. So I'll look on there and see you fly off.
Speaker 1That's right, alright, we'll see you next week. Bye y'all, bye.