Who's Driving
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Who's Driving - Q&A Part 2 S2E30
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Get back in here. Did you have a little potty break? I did. Oh good, Are we still on the road? This is part two from last week. We're going to pick back up with our Q&A and whatever the hell we're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we haven't had a Q&A in a minute, you know, other than last week. Right, here we go. We kind of neglected that.
Speaker 1:It's time for another episode of who's Driving.
Speaker 2:Welcome to who's Driving. Welcome to who's Driving. I'm Wesley Turner.
Speaker 1:And I'm Stephen Merck. We're two best friends and entrepreneurs who's Driving is an entertaining look into the behind the scenes of our lives, friendship and business.
Speaker 2:These are the stories we share and topics we discuss, as two best friends would on a long road trip.
Speaker 1:Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer a wide range of informative topics centered around running small businesses, social media and all things home and garden.
Speaker 2:Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
Speaker 1:You never know who's driving or where we're headed. All we know is it's always a fun ride and, like we mentioned this week, we're going to continue on from last week, where we were answering random questions and we got all on the topic. We left off about five things you must have in your house and I think we might have sounded a little bougie.
Speaker 2:We did. But you said, you asked. But, like I said, if I had to go down to a one-bedroom tiny home, I'm going to have all those things I talked about your lie-so-so fancy range is not going to fit in a one-bedroom. Tiny house, not the range, is not a must for me, I'm just talking.
Speaker 1:I'd have to have my ice machine, my good sheets, your ice machine is going to be a countertop plug-in in your one-bedroom tiny house, like we have in our flower room. That's how we get our ice. But we get tired of it because we only plug it in, probably in the month of July. Well, we already made it through July. We didn't even plug it in this year, so I don't know.
Speaker 2:We need an ice machine too. You do need to get. I'm telling you, it's life changing.
Speaker 1:Before we get back into the topic of questions, random questions we were asked. I do have a riddle for you.
Speaker 2:I've got one for you too. I love it.
Speaker 1:We've been on the riddle train. I love riddles. Yes, all right. So people buy me to eat. I wrote it down wrong. People buy me to eat, but never eat me. What am I? People buy me to eat but never eat me. What am I? People buy me to eat but never eat me. What am I?
Speaker 2:A fork.
Speaker 1:Now that I'm thinking about that, that could answer.
Speaker 2:Spoon.
Speaker 1:A plate was the whatever.
Speaker 2:But now that.
Speaker 1:I say it out loud, I'm like well, that could be a fork, a plate, a cup, a spoon, yeah, Anything, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, I kind of got it. Yeah, I kind of got it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you did. I give that one to you. That one has more than one answer.
Speaker 2:now that I think about it, yeah, I gave you one like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:What you got for me. What does the letter T and an island have in common? A T and an island have in common Let. A, t and an island have in common.
Speaker 1:Let the letter T and an island have in common, Like the landmass an island, an island, i-l-a-n-d Island.
Speaker 2:Well, it's I-S-L-A-N-D. Yeah, I mean I-S. You know what I mean? The letter. T and an island have in common, huh, a letter.
Speaker 1:T, dum, dum, dum, dum. My gosh, that's a good one actually, oh my gosh, that is okay, that's a pretty good one, I thought. That's a pretty good one.
Speaker 2:I mean that doesn't follow like the riddle train of thought as much, but I give that one to you. You're giving me a lot. That you know. I got the one you gave me. Right, you didn't get that one, that's true. So you're really not giving me.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just saying, sometimes they're corny ones. That one's not really corny, I'm just like oh, it's really like. I guess it's a riddle. Good one, good job, good one. You did it, girl. That is so good of you. You really stumped me, yeah so hard. Oh, my goodness, I saw on, I think, social media. I'm pretty sure this would have been a TikTok thing. That I saw Someone brought up the question in the comments flabbergasted me. I must say what the question was how often do you shower?
Speaker 2:And oh, I can answer that very and I can. I'll tell you exactly how I Listen. I'm a clean.
Speaker 1:This was a hot little topic.
Speaker 2:Other than my towel situation, which Dylan almost died over me telling him about my towel washing or lack thereof. So that has been completely corrected.
Speaker 1:Okay, we've corrected it.
Speaker 2:What are we?
Speaker 1:down to every three days. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Can we get?
Speaker 1:that down to like every other day.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Then that's impractical Okay.
Speaker 2:I shower, I have to shower and you are. You and I are the same way. I am not prepared to face my day without a shower no, I don't care, not start my day without a shower.
Speaker 1:Like my body will not function without me starting the day with a shower.
Speaker 2:If I do not shower, it's going to be a stay at home all day and work in the office day, because I can't, oh, but see for me I can't even mentally get in the space to come work in the office unless I've showered.
Speaker 1:I have to Like. The only way I will not shower in a day is if I'm like in the bed, either just sick or, uh, just totally sleeping but I don't know when, like aftermarket yeah, or something like that, but then I'm still gonna get up and take a shower before I like eat dinner or something like I can't like. A shower is the equivalent of you must put on your shoes, to leave the house, to go outside.
Speaker 2:But the funny thing is, dylan is not a morning shower, he is a nighttime. And then he gets up, washes his face, shaves, wets his hair, fixes his hair. And I can't do it.
Speaker 1:I have to have not just from the cleanliness standpoint, I have to have the stimulation of the shower. Where the water hit me, I processed all of my thoughts for the day, like all of that has to happen. I've been that way since I was a kid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now when I tan, when I'm using self-tanner. So you know, like when I hurt my back several weeks ago, I could not bend to put my self-tanner on, so I quit doing that, so I was just doing my shower every morning. Yeah, you know, unless I got dirty doing something, Right, yeah?
Speaker 1:I don't always shower in the evening.
Speaker 2:I don't, unless I've been working and dirty.
Speaker 1:Like if I wear, if I go to the warehouse which our warehouse isn't that dirty but if I wear shorts there, my legs always feel like sticky from the dust and stuff and I have to shower before I can go to bed.
Speaker 2:But if I do my self-tanner, I do shower before I go to bed because I'm not going to let that self-tanner mess up my bedding. Get on your expensive sheet.
Speaker 1:No, no, but okay. So in the comments though on this TikTok people were saying oh, every two days, every three days. They only shower two to three times a week, and some people were like y'all are wasting water showering every day. No, your cracks be smelling, but here's the thing.
Speaker 2:It literally, but but I will say this A friend of mine in conversation. She has been on a and it's somebody you don't know, so don't be thinking through that. She has read how we Bathe Too Much as a society. I'm going to keep doing it Me too, but she read how bad it is for our skin, how bad everything about us. We're not supposed to shower daily and she embraced that and she's trying to do it like once a week.
Speaker 2:Hell no, I'm like. No, your ass has to be kicking. I mean I'm sure she does like hits the hot spots kind of with a washcloth.
Speaker 1:I'm hoping uh, uh, no animal, the dang dog cleans itself every day, licking like. I can see where you say I I'm going to shower without soap or something. Maybe you're going to get in there and exfoliate, scrub it. I don't know what you're going to do, or maybe a less harsh soap or something.
Speaker 2:I get not washing your hair every day, just like running the water through it, but if you're not showering, like the back of your ears get soured. I mean, it's just everything all those little crevices your armpit your belly button your, your boobs, the crap all of it no one wants to smell I can't, I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1:I was blown away, though, by like I thought. I thought showering every single day was like what everyone did.
Speaker 2:Well, you know one of, well a lot of my neighbors are doctors because of the hospital being close by, and, um, one of my neighbors is an avid well, he moved but he's an avid camper like major camping, like out in the middle of um parks, national parks, where there's nothing there, yeah and I'm like, um, how do you wash your ass? And he's like well, we buy this underwear that you only want you only have to wash once a week and that we just kind of go natural, no.
Speaker 1:No, no, no.
Speaker 2:Let us know, and he goes with his wife.
Speaker 1:We will not judge you maybe, but this is to me like the towel thing how often do you take a shower? Text us. You have to text us or call and leave us a voicemail, either, whatever works for you. Our hotline number is 864-982-5029. It's down in the show notes below, but I'm going to tell you one more time because I want to hear this 864-982-5029. How often do you shower regularly, your regular routine? Now I know people can be like oh, I've been on vacation at home over the holidays and next thing I knew it'd been three days since I showered.
Speaker 1:That doesn't count. What is your regular routine? How often do you shower? That's what I want to know, because I was just taken aback.
Speaker 2:And if you only shower every three or four days, how is your pits not kicking?
Speaker 1:That's what I was going to say, and I wouldn't even like the feel it would drive me, the feel of the buildup of deodorant of two or three days, even if you put deodorant on every day, but surely they're washing their hot spots with a washcloth?
Speaker 2:I don't think so.
Speaker 1:No that's not what it sounded like. How do you Let us know if you are? I know some of you are listening and like, oh, I only shower every three days. Do you hit the hot spots, or is it just like you wash and then you don't think about it again for three days?
Speaker 2:And my friend that has adopted this, you know, after what she read is a very, very clean, nice, smelling normal.
Speaker 1:I mean somebody I've known for 35 years and but you know I'm like I was going to say I guess I could see you know working from home now and you don't leave your house, but still you just feel dirty and nasty. I can't get down with that?
Speaker 2:No, I would be soured.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now washing our hair. I don't know if we've talked about this. We started using wind shampoo like years ago like I don't know 10 years ago or so and it's not like a soap. It know it's almost like a lotion. You know it's like a lotion texture. It doesn't foam and I only wash my hair like every 10 days. I wet it every day and I'll let the water run through it and get any product out. You're not supposed to wash it, but I only wash my hair every like 7 to 10 days.
Speaker 2:I used to wash mine daily until and you know, I use Winn too. I use Winn as a strip. I use it to strip my hair.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because that's what it does it strips. It strips crap off your hair.
Speaker 1:But it doesn't take the oils and stuff out.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no the bad stuff, it dissolves it kind of. Yeah, so I use that, but I don't, you know, I don't and I don't use. I just use that like every, like twice a month, and then I wash my hair maybe every three or four days.
Speaker 1:I don't use anything on my hair except for Winn Haven't for years, unless when I go to get it cut and they wash it. And it made such a big difference in my hair Like the texture in my hair, you know it just made my hair so much better.
Speaker 2:Winn is good, but I do in my hair, you know. It just made my hair so much better when it's good, but I do even though I use other products in it and I just rinse my hair out every day. But but so you have really really you know everybody has something.
Speaker 1:You have stinky pits right, so they're under control, just so you know.
Speaker 2:But you would be gross if you didn't shower daily. Oh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Yes, I feel like my pits have toned down in the last year and a half. They'll flare up sometimes and I'm like what's going?
Speaker 2:on Something you ate.
Speaker 1:Something I ate, or something like that. The good thing is, though, since y'all are learning too much information about me, that's the only thing like my feet never stink.
Speaker 2:Mine don't either.
Speaker 1:Nothing else on me stinks but my pits will. I wonder if I got Botox in my pits, if that would help.
Speaker 2:I couldn't handle that.
Speaker 1:If that would help.
Speaker 2:That would hurt.
Speaker 1:With the smell.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, I don't know if it would stop the smell, but it would stop the sweat.
Speaker 1:But I don't sweat. You remember I went through a period we're not going to get into it and that's really when I started wearing black shirts every, every, every day where my pits would sweat. I could not get them under control.
Speaker 1:So gross I know it was weird. I'm not going to get into what caused it or why I think they did that, but it lasted for like a year that they just I mean, I would get out of the shower and if I didn't have a shirt on, they would start dripping Like I would be like, why are my? It was like water running off of them here, I don't know Anyway.
Speaker 2:And you know I'm obsessed with being clean. I love colognes. I like smelling good.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I don't want to be dirty or stinky and like on the I mean just in general on the subject of showering every day, like sometimes it's twice a day, like daniel and I mean because he's here working on the farm sometimes he showers like three or four times a day, like he'll go out in the morning and then come in at lunch, especially if it's hot, and take a shower when they get lunch.
Speaker 2:And then, yeah, it revives you. Yeah, and I, you know, when I do something physical, like if I'm working at the and if I work at the garden store and I've been planting and stuff, I have to go home and shower because I feel like I have dirt and dust all over and I do yeah you know, you take your underwear off and moss and dirt falls out of it. That's true, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:Balls and dirt falling Balls out of it. That's true, oh my goodness. Okay, so that was just something I saw on social media TikTok I believe. But going back to our Q&A from last week picking up there, was there anything else you wanted to add to the house the top five things or did we kind of cover it?
Speaker 2:I think we covered it.
Speaker 1:I don't think we equally gave 10 things, but that was some of our favorite things that you must have. One of the common questions I got in the question box was how is my flight training going? Not so, I haven't flown since. I haven't had training since December and I'm very like it is something I think about every day because I want to do it and I want to finish it. And I'm very like it is something I think about every day because I want to do it and I want to finish it and I'm going to.
Speaker 1:But now I'm going to have to kind of start back over because it's been so long. I got my medical license and clearance and that was the next step, but at the same time, by the time I got that done, we were in the middle of having to move warehouses and work just got in the way and I wanted so. After it had been with the warehouse and stuff, I wanted to be at a time where I'm like okay, I can fly like every day or every other day for like two weeks and like really knock out.
Speaker 2:Realistically you should pick it up like next spring.
Speaker 1:I know, so that's why I'm like.
Speaker 2:And get it done in the summer.
Speaker 1:Right, so anyway. So the flying thing is on hold. I miss it, I love it and I want to do it.
Speaker 2:And I've never started. I know, but I need to.
Speaker 1:I know you do need to. It is so cool.
Speaker 2:It started with. That's always been my dream.
Speaker 1:And then all of a sudden you said oh, I want to do it, I know, and so here we are.
Speaker 2:But I need to do it, I want to do it, I love to fly.
Speaker 1:I know, maybe we could find our own pilot, you know, instructor, we could share one or something.
Speaker 2:Well, I have one, you know oh yeah, you do.
Speaker 1:Does she still do yeah?
Speaker 2:I need to call her. I just showed her house on Wednesday.
Speaker 1:I need to call her and I feel like someone that I can get in like a routine with. I love the one, the instructor that I was working with, but see they, I think he's still there right now if I went back, but by the time I go back he'll be moved on.
Speaker 2:She's super cool.
Speaker 1:A lot of the instructors are there to get hours before their next step.
Speaker 2:And she designs. She designs airports and landing strips and all that kind of stuff. So, she's in a different part of the industry.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. So she just does that on the side, and I would really love to learn how to fly from a woman.
Speaker 2:She's smart.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I've tried to find I like where I go, but it's so awkward to switch between. For me they say it's not to switch between instructors or whatever, but if I restart in my instructor now it's not there. If he was there I would pick up with him. He was really good. But if I have to find a new one, I'm going to find a woman.
Speaker 2:I'm going to use Katie I feel like a woman would be.
Speaker 1:I don't know. You know we're used to women and connecting and talking and it's very personal and you got to have this trust level in there when you're learning, so I don't know. I just feel like a woman would be fun and good and thorough. I feel like women are very thorough. They are In planning and thorough, I feel like women are very thorough.
Speaker 1:They are In planning and teaching, and not that men aren't. We've talked about that before Women and McDonald's and how that helps. You know whatever. But anyway, I just feel like I want to learn they have great attention to detail. Yes, they do. I mean, I feel like they're better in that situation in a training and maybe it just goes back to you know, in school most teachers are women.
Speaker 2:And they're better with their hands, but I feel, like you can ask questions more.
Speaker 1:I don't know, it's just more comforting. I want a woman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not as intimidating.
Speaker 1:I also want to go back and I really want to go to someone and almost pretend. I don't need to pretend, I guess, but I want to start back at the beginning, like, start me, like I'm a brand new student and do like this recap segment too.
Speaker 2:Anyway, we can talk about that later. Well, I think that's good to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it doesn't hurt and it builds your hours. You got to have the hours anyway, no, and?
Speaker 2:you're kind of remedial anyway, generally speaking, A remedial person.
Speaker 1:So it's good to put you.
Speaker 2:I think it's good to just embrace Mechanically and yeah, but I mean, you know any other scholastic Step?
Speaker 1:point oh, my goodness Okay.
Speaker 2:You're below grade level.
Speaker 1:It probably is, who knows?
Speaker 1:no, I'm who knows, I'm kidding another random question we got, but I thought it was a funny one because I wanted you to answer this gosh, do either of you still stay in contact with high school friends and what do they think about your success? So I'll go first while you think about yours. I do not stay in contact with any high school friends, like I don't even do Facebook. I feel like that's where you keep more. Well, I guess people use all social media as difference, but here's how it worked for me. I used to have like a personal page on Facebook and that's kind of where I would see people that I grew up with People.
Speaker 1:I went to college with more friends and then I, when I got on Instagram and it became well, I got on there to document us renovating the farm and that sort of thing. That's when I fell into, if you want to call it an influencer or whatever. But I didn't follow on Instagram. I don't follow friends and family. Really I mean very few. I follow design accounts, you know farm accounts, flower farm accounts, so, and that's where I spend all of my time. So I really I haven't been on Facebook in years, so I really disconnected from all of the social media part where it was keeping up with like friends and stuff.
Speaker 1:So I just and I mean I didn't really like any of those people. I mean, if you're listening, I'm not talking about you, but I'm scared. Is there anyone from my past high school or college that listens to this? Text me on my hotline eight six, four, nine, eight, two, five zero two nine.
Speaker 2:that'd be funny it would be funny like I'm here listening yeah, well, he didn't like you no, it's not that it, it is.
Speaker 1:But it is. No, what really it is. I've moved so like I grew up in Tennessee.
Speaker 2:You moved so far away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I grew up in a small town in West Tennessee outside of Memphis and then I went to Mississippi State in Mississippi and I moved there to Atlanta, so I've kind of left these like segments. And then I moved to Greenville, but I moved to Greenville in 2005. So that's a long time. I mean we're going almost. Is that almost 20 years?
Speaker 2:We're past. Wait, you're, you're, you're going on 25 years 2005. No 20 years since 2005. But I'm saying since you've been out of high school.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I've been out of high school. Yeah, no, I'm saying since I moved to Greenville. So the people that I keep up with are green, like when I moved here. You develop your new, you know circle or whatever, so I haven't kept up with the high school people. I graduated high school in 99.
Speaker 2:So, yes, we're going, I'm still friends with a number Of your, because you didn't move as far, you just moved. I didn't move as far, but now I will tell you this. So, and you know, the people that I'm still close with actually listen to this, so they know who they are.
Speaker 1:We need to give a shout out to someone. I saw on the hotline over there. It was like Steven.
Speaker 2:Shut up.
Speaker 1:I didn't know you had a podcast.
Speaker 2:I mean I should put it out there On Facebook, probably you know, but I'm like I just want people to find it organically. Yeah, hear all the dirty tea. That's funny. But yeah, I'm friends Organically.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Hear all the dirty tea that's funny.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I'm friends. I too do not put our podcast out on any of those.
Speaker 2:I mean, I put it on Instagram, but if you don't follow me on Instagram.
Speaker 1:But a lot of my family probably they don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't, I'm like.
Speaker 1:They don't know that I have a podcast.
Speaker 2:Some of my very close does.
Speaker 1:I do, and all of Daniel's family Shout out. They all listen to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and a lot of my family listen. Yeah, you know, but yes, I still have friends from high school that I stay in touch with and it's you know, it's a smaller segment of people. There's a couple people that I just had to cut out. Um, I'm being serious, just very, very negative. Remember that one girl oh no job so we're not gonna call a name um, but we were friends talking about cut out we were friends, friends since like first grade and you know. And it's funny that they ask what was the whole question.
Speaker 1:Do either of you still stay in contact with high school friends, and what do they think of your success?
Speaker 2:Okay, that was the problem my success or her perception of my success. I don't walk around, If you know me. I do not walk around like, oh, I'm such a success.
Speaker 1:I don't even feel like a success.
Speaker 2:That's not who I am, so I don't want that to be perceived that way. But since that was the question, the issue was her perceived perception of my success, and it was just it. It was bizarre, wouldn't you say, wesley, it was yeah, and she was very jealous very jealous she, uh, but everyone in your life.
Speaker 1:She would be like they're out to get your money. Yeah they're just they're just friends with you like, because you have money to be your only friend only friend and she would get very jealous if you talked to anyone else, and then, and I'm only talking to you if you didn't have money, they wouldn't be your friend.
Speaker 2:I mean mean, I thought that was mean yeah, and I'm like you're not worthy of being some and I'm like okay, first of all, all of my friends. You know that I have developed over the years.
Speaker 2:If you're friends with me, damn, you know I'm cheap as hell you are not you are not friends with me because I have anything and and and none of my friends could tell you what I have anyway, because I don't even talk about it and I don't know what she thought I have. She thought she thinks I'm a like billionaire, right, and it's ridiculous and it just got to be um way too much and almost stalkerish.
Speaker 1:Yes, it became very weird. But you did have to. I forgot about that.
Speaker 2:And one person from high school and college actually I thought this was really sweet, and it was a straight male, which was even more interesting said one day to me, said this is after I bought my first McDonald's. He said can I have one of your business cards? And I said well, yeah, you have my contact information. I said why do you want a card? And he said I just want to keep it because it's a reminder that you're the only person I know from school that actually accomplished their dream. I thought that was sweet.
Speaker 2:That is very sweet, Because you know that was my dream and I thought, well, that was nice, but yeah, I still all the good people you know that are out there and they all support me for the right reasons and I love them for it and I want them in my life and you know I'm proud for their successes and I think they're proud of mine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's funny when I see reading that question in general, not just the do we stay in contact, but in what do they think of your success? Because does anyone like I don't? I know I'm not doing bad, I'm not discounting what we do, but I don't feel like I've done anything special to be like oh, he's so successful Me either. I've never thought that.
Speaker 2:I don't feel that.
Speaker 1:I don't feel that and I'm always thinking. I'm always just focused on what I'm doing next. We legitimately have fun and that sort of thing too, but for someone I mean, obviously this person that wrote this also perceives us as successful, and I know many people do. I'm not saying that also perceives us as successful, and I know many people do. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2:But Now I'm very thankful for what I have accomplished Right, but I do not feel. I don't feel accomplished.
Speaker 1:Does anyone I guess is what I'm saying wake up and go like, hot damn, I'm successful, I've done it, I have made it. I have made it. I mean, I have days where I am so thankful that and I will be riding in my car and I'm like, I am so thankful, Like I do not have to struggle for like a memory will pop up. You know I talked about, you know, like not being able to afford gas or something and I don't have that struggle or whatever, but so that is successful, but you don't as a person. Does anyone really feel?
Speaker 2:Oh, I think some people do. Now I do not feel that way and I've told you. You know I can remember, you know my mom was single mom and she struggled. She worked three jobs, you know, to pay a mortgage and do all the things. And I can remember, you know, going to the grocery store back in the day. You paid cash or you wrote a check. There were no credit cards or anything like that.
Speaker 1:We had to put things back. Yes, I know.
Speaker 2:And I can remember thinking please, god don't, I just want to be where. I don't have to do that. And do you know what? Thankfully, to this day, I have never had to put anything back.
Speaker 1:Isn't that funny, though as a kid that was a huge thing. But if you went to the grocery store right now and you had to put something back, would that really bother you? No, because I can buy whatever I want, I know. But.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying, but that was scarring to me and so I've always said you know, if I see somebody in that situation, I'm buying all their groceries. I mean seriously, I will do that for them. And so in that way I think I'm very successful and thankful and appreciative.
Speaker 1:But no.
Speaker 2:I don't, ever, I've never.
Speaker 1:There's all levels of success. That's the thing.
Speaker 2:Like you know what I'm saying, I've never sat around and go, you know, said, oh, I'm the shit and I don't even mean success.
Speaker 1:From that standpoint, I guess what I'm saying I'm not saying it from like a big headed standpoint. I just feel like I'm doing what I have to do to survive and I don't feel like anything that I've done is special. So I don't feel like it's like oh, you're such a big success. I just feel like, oh, I get up and do a job and this is what I've done. Like, oh, I get up and do a job and this is what I've done, and I don't, and I'm always like, well, what do I got?
Speaker 2:to do to keep it going next week, next month, next year?
Speaker 1:How do I keep it on the tracks? And I don't feel like there's never, like, oh my gosh, I'm doing it, I'm successful. And I'm not saying, like I said, from a big headed standpoint or anything like that, I just I'm in the moment of this is what I got to do to live and keep making money and keep the businesses going and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2:And it's survival.
Speaker 1:It doesn't feel like a success.
Speaker 2:I don't know how to say that it's weird. It's weird.
Speaker 1:It's like I don't feel like or perceive that I've done anything special.
Speaker 2:And that's the way it was with me owning McDonald's. It didn't feel like it didn't feel any different to me at year five from year 30. Because for 30 years I did the same thing.
Speaker 1:It was just the next step.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was all the next steps and I guess the thing, the most relevant current thing is with franchising.
Speaker 1:I think I told you this. I was like we put in energy to our business with, like you said, we spoke it to happen, but we put in elements like we want to franchise one day. That's our goal, like what is a long-term goal, we want to franchise. We want to franchise one day we would, or one day you know you're talking about that. And then it happened. We have our first franchisee, but there was no moment like in your mind you think, when I get to that we franchise, it's going to be some kind of moment, but that doesn't happen. It was just like, oh, they want to do this, okay, what do we have to do? And then it's step by step and next thing you know we're like, oh, we're franchising, their store's open.
Speaker 2:It's the way it is now interviewing new people. It's like oh, but.
Speaker 1:but that should, and is perceived as a big success.
Speaker 2:Like oh, they're doing it.
Speaker 1:It is exciting, but I'm just saying it doesn't feel like, oh my gosh, we accomplished this certain thing. Now we just keep going okay, well, we got to get that store open. Okay, who's going to be our next franchisee, because we've had other people reach out? Are we going to? You just keep going on with the steps. So it doesn't feel like this moment, like you would think it would like oh my gosh, we're successful and we've done it.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think it's just. I think that hard work in the all the sweat equity and energy you put into your career and building what you're building, really it really breaks down that feeling. You know what I'm saying. It's not like you know. It's not like I went to McDonald's one day and played Monopoly and won a McDonald's Right right.
Speaker 1:I guess what it is is. It's such a slow or it's such a process of little moments that equal what people see as the big picture. So to you you like me or you it doesn't feel like anything special or successful, like for you starting out behind the counter as a teenager in McDonald's to owning one is crazy successful. But that was across 30 years of experience. So when you got your first McDonald's, there wasn't or maybe there was was there like this oh my gosh, I made it moment.
Speaker 2:No hell no, it was like oh my God, I got to pay for this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it doesn't feel like to you success and you know, when I sold, when I sold my restaurants, it wasn't like woohoo, right, yeah it doesn't feel like to you success.
Speaker 2:And you know, when I sold, when I sold my restaurants, it wasn't like woohoo, Right, it's this payday. It was more like am I going to have enough? Oh my God, it's always been.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And I think it's probably because we grew up without a lot of excess.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I know. For me that's probably what it is.
Speaker 1:I just feel like it has to be like this monumental moment to feel like success. I don't know if that makes sense at all or whatever, but if you look back at things in the big picture of things, I'm not downgrading or disregarding that we are successful, but it doesn't to us feel like, oh, we're so successful.
Speaker 2:I don't know. No, I'm just thankful. And you know what seems what I am most thankful of out of everything, you know, when you, the older you get, the more you look at it is just having enough, just enough, because that's all you need, is enough. Right, and I'm so. I'm really most thankful for my help and just having enough, because, at the end of the day, it doesn't. You don't need any more than enough. I mean, I know, that's kind of deep, but when you really think of it, well, I want a little extra.
Speaker 1:But I mean really I mean, yeah, I need little extra.
Speaker 2:All we need is enough, it is true, and everybody's enough is different.
Speaker 1:That is true and that goes back to I think you and I have had this conversation, but Daniel and I certainly have with employees. You know everyone lives at different levels and everyone's enough to them and what level they want to be at is different than than other people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it as employers we have had. We've had it in our company, daniel's had it in his company. When you see this potential in people that could really you're like if they would just give it what I know they have more, 10% more their career, they could like give it what I know they have 10% more, 10% more their career, they could be up here and they don't. And that's what I've talked about with Daniel is that's because their enough is enough. Their enough is not the same as what our enough is and what you see they could be doing they don't care to do more.
Speaker 1:They don't want to. They don't have the want. They don't care to do more, they don't want to. They don't have the want. They don't have the care they don't have.
Speaker 2:And the difference between the difference between good and great, is so small, right, but so much like it just takes that extra little bit of effort that the majority of people out there are not going to give it.
Speaker 1:Right For whatever. The majority of people out there are not going to give it right for whatever, but it's be. It can also be because they are there. Like you said, they're enough is different. They don't want that. They don't need to go to that extra level. Right, because they don't want. They don't have that desire like some people, just don't have that they're not wired, not wired like that. Right, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:And they don't want any nicer things because it doesn't mean anything to them. It's like how I don't you know you like cars, for example.
Speaker 2:I love cars.
Speaker 1:I am fine with whatever cranks and gets me down the road.
Speaker 2:And I, you know, I just bought this game, oh, my gosh, we're going to start drawing cards on the podcast.
Speaker 1:Did you bring this game with?
Speaker 2:you. I did not bring it with me, but the next podcast we're going to draw, we're going to do this with our listeners.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:This is a great game. It's a deep game. It's not a shallow game. Yeah, but you know everybody, every person is different and, like to me, I can't understand why you wouldn't want to be on a different plateau, whatever that is Like. I didn't want to have to worry about paying my bills or buying groceries. Now, did I exceed that plateau? Yes, but my goal?
Speaker 1:I didn't set out, I don't, I don't I don't even know how to word it Like I've never. I've never been a person that is satisfied. Sitting idle period, wired. We're not we're. That's gonna sound bad if I say we're never satisfied. Career wise right, but if we reach one level, we want the next level, not in a not in a monetary sense in a greedy sense, it's just like.
Speaker 1:That's what drives us, because if we stay, if we reach this level and we stay flat, we are bored and we'll just wither away. That's not how we, we, we can't get enough of doing like in career and stuff. That's why we couldn't stop at one retail store. We could have lived off of one retail. No, we're not gonna stop at that. That's too boring. We're gonna have two retail stores well, it was like one mcdonald's.
Speaker 2:I couldn't stop at one. I was even contemplating because I didn't want to relocate. So I was really trapped with one for four years and I was so bored I contemplated selling.
Speaker 1:Because it wasn't a challenge.
Speaker 2:It wasn't a challenge and I didn't want to move. You know I, you know I went to McDonald's and I was like, come on, yeah, like I can't do this Right, I've got to have more. And they knew that, they knew that about me, they knew how I was wired in and all worked itself out so I could get more. But then when I got more you know their more and my more were two different things you know their more was they wanted me to own 20. My more was good with five or six. And then you have to decide, right, what do I want to do?
Speaker 1:Right, but that's just the drive, that's in us as humans and see other people don't have that, and that's why I was going. We couldn't just stop at one retail store, let's do another one. We couldn't stop at two, let's do online. Like oh, we can't stop at that. Let's franchise. But we will not stop or we will be bored as hell. It's not a challenge. The challenge is what drops us.
Speaker 2:And that's the difference between being successful and not being successful, I think, is getting back up. Yeah, If you get knocked down, you get. You get your ass back up and keep going.
Speaker 1:You keep going, I guess. But it is going back to what you said. Everyone's enough for them is very different, because some people, you know, uh, on the farm, in our businesses we've had like, huh, they could get this, they could take on. We've had people we've offered this next step role. Oh, I don't want to do that that's too much that's too much.
Speaker 1:I'm like you're getting a pay increase, you already know how to do it, you have the potential, like you could literally do it, and it makes no difference, you're practically already doing it. Oh, I don't want that title, but they don't want it. They're enough where their living is comfortable for them.
Speaker 2:I do not get that person at all.
Speaker 1:But I think it's okay I can get that person because their. But I think it's okay I can get that person because their priorities are different than mine and yours.
Speaker 2:It used to frustrate me. Our priorities.
Speaker 1:we love business and being entrepreneurs and that's our lifestyle. We've talked about that on the podcast. That is our lifestyle, whereas those people not saying them in a bad way their priority is not pouring it into their job and doing that and making more money is not successful to them. They would rather like no. I don't want that responsibility. I want to leave at this time and I want to go home and my priorities are you know.
Speaker 2:Well, I had employees I'm talking people that worked for me for 25 years and their job was not even management. Their job was working on the front counter. And I'm not talking dumb people, I'm talking bright, nice people with potential. But you know, be it a housewife or you know a mom that worked in between, but that's not what that person wanted and it blew my mind.
Speaker 1:It does, it blows my mind.
Speaker 2:I mean, we've run into that several times in working with employees.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've gone to you and been like I'm so frustrated because this person could be so good if they would, just but they don't want it. They don't want it. And we've talked to them. They're like, eh, I don't want it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was that way. That's what really got me in McDonald's. You know, in my teens and 20s I'm going to be completely honest I wanted to be on McDonald's for the shallow reasons I wanted to be rich. That was my path to rich and success Right Then you get in your 30s for me and it became something way different and a lot deeper than that.
Speaker 2:It was more like I can give back, I can help people, I can do what was done for me. You know I can. I can pass it along, yeah, and what really was frustrating for me along the path was the people that were just basically like no thanks, I'm good and I'm like you're not.
Speaker 1:Yeah you're not, you're not, that's true you.
Speaker 2:They just didn't want it.
Speaker 1:So true, but you know I have.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm not going to lie, but those people probably sleep a lot better than I do.
Speaker 1:Probably. They're not worrying about anything and you and I will probably fall over dead in the middle of a lab cell or something working to the day we die. Well, I've said my intent is but that's why we enjoy working and doing what we do.
Speaker 2:And my intent is I plan to work at least to lunch on the day of my funeral. That is my goal.
Speaker 1:That is funny.
Speaker 2:My dad said that is hilarious. My dad's funny. He's like you are the only person I know that's got to one day retire from being retired. I'm like you know. I made that mistake once and said I was going to semi-retire. I will never make that mistake again.
Speaker 1:It's not me. Yeah, I know I'll be trying to push something to the last minute. Maybe we could have a little sale at my funeral, you might see me Listen, when I just can't do it for myself anymore.
Speaker 2:you might see me at Starbucks. I'm not saying Right. Or in the McDonald's drive-thru. I promise you, I can still do it.
Speaker 1:You can't keep up with that.
Speaker 2:You can't push those buttons.
Speaker 1:I could no, ma'am, I could steal, I bet you I could, the people they have I could run circles around them we need to find an owner that you still know, and let us, let you come work through the job through. I can, I Can we film that as a segment that would be fun. Can we both get jobs for a day at McDonald's drop through?
Speaker 2:I bet you. Okay, here's the deal. We need an evening job, though we will make a donation to the Ronald House. Yes, he's president of the Ronald House and I can make this happen. We need a little segment.
Speaker 1:I know I can do it.
Speaker 2:Maybe you should. I know I can do it. Yeah, I don't know if you could, but I can. I'll ask.
Speaker 1:He, just he, can hire me for a day and I'll donate all the money to the back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something and Dylan could come film it. That would be.
Speaker 2:We need a little come film it. We need a little.
Speaker 1:We need a segment of you running the drive-thru. I want to be.
Speaker 2:I want to be the one on the speaker because I listen. I can help you Listen, I'm a pro. No, that is not the way you do it. Order, no, no, no, no. Repeat Wesley broke my heart today. I got here to do the podcast and there's no way to get here without driving past one of my old McDonald's and I said, ooh, there is a new air conditioning unit sitting out there and that's $20,000. I was like, ooh, you know, that was one of those moments.
Speaker 1:I'm glad, oh, I'm glad that's not my money oh, that damn unit's been sitting in the part in the drive-thru line it's blocking a drive-thru lane it's been sitting there for at least a month see, that makes me want to just stop and it's all in the crate and everything and see, I don't know this owner at all, but I'm like how this owner, this one, is from Kentucky. What we should do is just go apply for jobs and not even tell them you could video me, I could video you.
Speaker 2:They wouldn't know, and then we'll just quit after a couple of days. It would be funny, but you know we would be the best they have.
Speaker 1:We would end up right in the place.
Speaker 2:You know, when I got there, you know my first dad would be like excuse me, I need you in your place. When I put the store manager into a position, they would be like wait a minute.
Speaker 1:What's going on here?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And get these windows clean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sick of it. I've looked at these for seven damn years.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, that would be so funny.
Speaker 2:I would love to do that, but, yeah, we should do that one day and I need, I need. There's other things I need. You know I am down. I am down to just a few trash bags. Oh, do you used to get them from there.
Speaker 1:Those are my run over trash bags that is hilarious, yes, hilarious, yes, oh my gosh, yes, I'm down to just a few. Oh my gosh, that is too funny.
Speaker 2:Dylan was like I've never seen trash bags like this. I'm like Is it those clear?
Speaker 1:just.
Speaker 2:They're black, okay, they're in a roll and it's like I mean, I can't remember how much it was. It was like $16 for like hundreds Of trash bags.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, yeah, that's too funny. Oh, okay, we're going to have to pull this baby over and wrap this up. We really got off the tracks we cleaned out some ditches.
Speaker 2:I don't know what it is, but I hope everyone's having a great week.
Speaker 1:Remember to leave us a review wherever you're listening to our podcast, and we would love to hear your feedback on our hotline 864 982-5029. When we get back so we recorded these Daniel and I are headed to the beach. You're headed to Hilton Head. We're going to see you doing some things in Savannah maybe. Yes, I don't know what we're going to do. We're going to be in Florida right now. We're leaving in a couple of days. There's a potential. You know, tropical something, something headed that way. You know, we survived one together.
Speaker 1:We might be riding one out down there. We'll have to see. We'll touch base when we get back, we'll pick up our car ride and we'll be talking about what we did over our break.
Speaker 2:I'll be on the cameras looking to see. That's what I do when we have storms that go through. I'm like let me see if I see my house fly away. So I'll look on there and see you fly off.
Speaker 1:That's right, alright, we'll see you next week. Bye y'all, bye.