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Who's Driving- Trends and Therapy S3 E34
We talk home decor market trends—greens and navy, antiques surging, animal prints everywhere—and then pivot to a farm story with a newborn donkey before wrapping up with a real therapy session on spending guilt, success, and designing for how we live, not for approval.
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Oh fuck a lot, Big Mama.
SPEAKER_03:I don't even know what the right three. But all I know is time for another episode of Who's Driving. Welcome to Who's Driving. I'm West McMurdo. And I'm Stephen Murray.
SPEAKER_01:We're Two Best Friends and Entrepreneurs.
SPEAKER_03:Who's Driving is an entertaining look into the behind the scenes of our live spring.
SPEAKER_01:These are the stories we share and topics we discussed. Two best friends would along the way.
SPEAKER_03:Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer a wide range of informative topics centered around running small businesses, social media, and also making home cars.
SPEAKER_01:Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
SPEAKER_00:You never know who's driving or where we're headed.
SPEAKER_03:All we know is it's always a fun ride. Can you talk now? You got what you're talking about. Give me some of that. We got in these amazing rice crispies, gourmet rice crispies at the warehouse. Dylan dug into one and brought us half of it. By the way, we are recording remotely at the warehouse, so if the sounds a little funky, echoey, you know, you just gotta go with the flow. We are not professionals.
SPEAKER_00:And we're never gonna be. I don't even know how we're getting this one. We were I feel like an indentured servant. We may not even be recording.
SPEAKER_03:So last week we ended up skipping the episode unintentionally again, but Stephen when um Stephen and Dylan, y'all were at the high point furniture market. Yeah. We were gonna record on the way home, but it was raining and it got dark. It was turbal, y'all.
SPEAKER_01:It was it was one of those where people were stopping and it was like so it was not a good situation.
SPEAKER_03:And then we've had a busy week and a busy so-and-so, and it's a busy, busy because we're in the middle of the busy season, but we're happy about that. So I want to, since we didn't get to do last week's, I want to recap market. And you know, I didn't go to market. This is the first high point market I've missed without you and I missed one together, a planned one, one time. Um, but just like didn't go.
SPEAKER_01:And I honestly thought that it was gonna be more of a vacation because I wasn't there. Yeah, and you and I really split up. We really don't do that market together anyway. But I was like, oh, it's gonna be nice. I don't have to hear your mouth.
SPEAKER_03:I don't have to advise this is a live.
SPEAKER_01:I thought I I won't have to keep up with you.
SPEAKER_03:You miss you don't do any of that anyway.
SPEAKER_01:I won't have to like meet up with you to do a live or anything. But you know what I discovered? You missed it. I do it to myself. That's right. You're the problem because see, you ended up. I couldn't be happy just shopping. I had to go figure find something to do. And to jump on and did a live. It's not me. I know. It's Nick. It's us. It's us. Um but it was a good market. I did kind of miss you in a way, but honestly, that is the one market we do not do together. All we do are wives together.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so normally Steven's hunting for the larger furniture pieces and usually design clients like. And I run around and find the accessories. I come in and check on you, and you'll be like, Oh, I've got this and this. And I'm like, love it, love it, don't care. We'll do like the upholstery together or something like that. But um, it wasn't a big deal because the stuff I would normally order, we were in a good place, so it was fine. So um tell us then about market.
SPEAKER_00:Market? What trends are you seeing? Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, I'll do first major colors. There's two. The number one hottest color of every shade known to man is green.
SPEAKER_03:I was gonna say it's gotta be green, I'm guessing.
SPEAKER_01:And the number two is uh mostly navy blue. Blue is hotter than ever. And it blue took so long to get to Greenville.
SPEAKER_03:You know, it's been blue for a long time.
SPEAKER_01:Years things are getting to Greenville a little quicker now. Yeah. Well, we're getting more of a mix of people. Yeah. They it used to be, we used to be at least five years behind trends in Greenville. You know, I think the smaller, more removed you are. But those were two of the biggest color trends, animal prints on everything.
SPEAKER_03:I've been talking about that for a couple of seasons. On everything.
SPEAKER_01:Um rugs, furniture, you name it. And I can get into that. And taxidermy. Yes. Taxidermy has moved in, you know. I have always been in a taxidermy. Judge me, whatever. I don't really care. Um, I love it. I don't hunt. I do not, I do, I can't kill an animal. I do not think there's anything wrong with killing an animal if you're gonna eat. I don't really like it for sport, personally. But I love them. It brings nature in, especially when you live in a condo in the city. To me, growing up on a farm in the country, I want to feel a little bit of that. So I love that trend. Um, still your metals, your antique brass, huge. Anything warm is waste. Anything warm. Um, there's a couple of trends that are not my bag. And see, I'm that person, I resist some trends. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I'm that way with new cars.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and you gotta remember that's what they are. And some trends they die quicker. They die quicker than others. This one is sticking around.
SPEAKER_01:Pattern shades. They are like window shades? No, only lamps shades. They are hot.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:The other thing are that I do not care for, and this is a Steven personal thing. I do not care for pleated shades. Oh, yeah. And it's a practical, they collect dust. That's why I don't like them. It's not, I think they're pretty when they're clean and new, but they they don't stay that way. Yeah. Um, that's huge. Um anything, anything worn patterned on sofas. Yeah. Personally, for my clients, I will always say, do not do a patterned sofa. I did one patterned sofa in my life, and I wanted, I spent a lot of money on it. And I was so sick of that damn thing in two years, I wanted to set fire to it.
SPEAKER_03:When I moved, it stayed. And we've always told people at our retail store, if you want a pattern, buy it in your chairs. Buy it in your throw pillows. Yeah. Keep your sofa solid because that is something you're typically going to keep 10 years or longer.
SPEAKER_01:It's the most money. And then don't do as wild of a print or bold on your chair, because that's your second most expensive. Do your do your bold out there things in your pillows. Or a rug. Yeah. Some people.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So uh those were those were to me were the biggest trends that it really jumped out at me. Yeah. And what was interesting to me, antiques, antiques, antiques, antiques, antiques are so. We've been calling this for at least two and a half years now. They are so hot things that I have in my home. I promise you I could sell ten times what I paid.
SPEAKER_03:Literally. And you were saying even some of our vendors have said they're now introducing, which we also talked about in previous episodes. We were seeing vendors have one or two antique inspired replica type pieces. And then you said one of our vendors is coming out with a line of antique replicas. Yes. That's how hot like antique.
SPEAKER_01:And one of our high-end designers, uh, they're actually going to Europe, buying and then replicating it. No, they're buying antiques, putting it in their showrooms, and they're selling. Oh, they're just selling the antiques. The one off. Yeah. Yeah. You buy that one. They ain't cheap.
SPEAKER_03:One. But nothing like it is. It's crazy how that's coming back around. The like antiques.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I used to be able to buy stuff.
SPEAKER_03:It's just like though it's a little bit different style. It's more of your like European inspired antiques.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's not as much your American antiques. It's your definitely your English English and French for the most part. Yeah. Um, the one thing that is different about the antiques and the trend is there's a lot of bleached oak, which I happen to like. I really like my, I really like my really dark walnut uh age pieces, but I also kind of get into that bleach. I have both. I like both of them. Yeah, I do too. I really want them bleached or really dark. I really don't like personally. You don't want that in between in that cherry kind of tone or any of that. But it's so interesting in just how much they cost. Mirrors, uh, antique mirrors, super hot, crazy expensive. Raise, insanely expensive. And the older, older they are, you know, the Parisian ones, it's just insane. Yeah. It is insane. The good thing is, is those of us that have always collected have the pieces. We have them. You're back on track. But you really, it's hard now to um to go out and match that trend without spending a lot of money. Yeah. And I really like that. I like that whole look anyway. I personally, I don't want all new in a home. I like layers.
SPEAKER_03:It makes it home. It makes it feel homey when you add some new, you add some antiques, you layer in this, layer in that. It creates your style. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Grandma's cabinet. You know, I can walk through my home and say, that was my great-grandmother's. That was my grandmother's. That was here. I found this one there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:This one's from our store.
SPEAKER_01:Literally, I mean, literally, literally, you can I can walk through and say, I got that and a yard sale for$15.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Literally, I can't. This is new from our home store. Yeah. Like you have the whole mix in there. But that's what makes it uniquely yours in your home in your style. You didn't try to, you didn't go pick out a set somewhere, or you didn't go too antique heavy either.
SPEAKER_01:No, no. I like a good mix. And um, I mean, honestly, I would really, I could easily go antique heavy. Yeah. But I won't always have that level of comfort. Right. And I want everything to be practical and you and you can use it. Yeah. You don't want to sit down on a wobbly chair that don't sit on that dining chair because it's gonna fall apart. If you come in my home, there is nothing that you can't stand on, sit on, or use.
SPEAKER_03:That's true. But he will be right behind you, fluffing, straightening. I didn't say that.
SPEAKER_01:But there's nothing that's so rickety or so precious that you can't sit on it, use it, fart on it, whatever you need to do. Oh my God. I mean, I don't want that. Yeah. And like some rugs, I go, you know, shopping for clients. And listen, there's a rug for everybody's budget, just like a haircut, just like a lamp. Everybody has a different budget. I am not going to spend what a car costs personally on a rug. Nope.
SPEAKER_03:Not gonna do it. But you know, we've talked about that before in previous podcasts. Maybe you're in the works of reworking. If you want a rug like that that's expensive, get a less expensive and then layer your statement rug on top. And then you can downsize. You don't have to have a 10 by 15 rug. That can be your base, less expensive rug. And then you can get one with the cool pattern that's the antique.
SPEAKER_01:Or if you don't use your dining room, let's face it, a lot of people do not use their dining rooms. They're there for looks. Put that expensive rug in there where it's not going to get ruined. If you use your dining room every day, I have friends that use their dining room every day. That's where their family eats. Why the hell would you put a$50,000 rug in there? I mean, I ain't putting a$50,000 rug anywhere. Not in my house.
SPEAKER_03:It would have chicken shit, donkey shit, rubbed all in it. That's funny. Speaking of that, is that all the is that does that hit your trends?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was a really good market. I mean, it was um, I didn't get any like, you know, you go to some and you don't, you're like, I don't even have a feeling. I don't have a good feeling, a bad it was just a blah. It was a good market. Right.
SPEAKER_03:I think it is funny backing up like you were saying, like taxidermy is popular and that sort of thing. And the live sale that you jumped on and did was turtle shells, which I have in my dining room, you've had in your house, um, and antler mounts. Which we've sold for years. And we've even done this live sale before, and we it always says fine. It does okay. It's yeah, it's like a 10-minute live sale. Um, here, do y'all want these antlers because you've seen them in our house or the turtle shells? But we sell some. We sell some, and it's you know, it's 10 minutes in and out. It's fine. The way they bought them this time, though. Totally different. Like night and day.
SPEAKER_01:Bought everything we damn had. Yeah. Like to the point where I'm like having to steal from what I bought for the store to which I was shocked. I mean, I guess it showed you how it's on trend.
SPEAKER_03:How it's on trend, um, and top of the trend now. And you were saying the guy was like saying how so.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we've been buying from this same vendor, and I was like, you know, I I love to talk to everybody about business and how they got started.
SPEAKER_03:To me, it's he's got such a little niche there's market turtle shells, antlers, loose antlers, like sheds, mounts, and mounts.
SPEAKER_01:They're all European. So I'm like, and I ended up spending way too much time with this guy, very nice guy. And I'm like, how in the hell did you get it?
SPEAKER_03:Because he's been doing it for years. Yeah. I mean, since we've been going there, so we've been going for more than 10 years. Yeah, years. He's been doing that. We've been buying from him.
SPEAKER_01:I said, How in the hell? Like, how did you end up and like everything else? It wasn't planned. It just happened. Yeah. Um, but it was interesting because he said now it is super, super on trend. And even like the quantities that he can get in Europe are getting smaller. Yeah. Like it is getting harder and harder and harder. So the price is going to go up, up, up, up. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Well, that's the way it goes. You know what something else, and again, like those things never go out of style. Certain things, like antiques, people are being like, I've had antiques. It doesn't go out of style. We're talking about what's hot. And you got to realize there's different generations that come on every time. So there's new people decorating their house that maybe never did have antiques when you're sitting over here going, well, that ain't nothing new. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And there's a lot of baby boomers that hate antiques.
SPEAKER_03:Right, because they inherited them. Or they grew up with them, and it's not something.
SPEAKER_01:Um, like my grandparents. Yeah. My my my parents' parents thought I was nuts. Buying antiques and antique rugs, especially. I would get so much, you know, my one grand mom's mom. Uh-huh. She came to my house, and let me just tell you, my house was pretty. We're talking my old house. It was a very house you pads. But it was very pretty, and it was very uh layered, very well done, if I do say so myself. But she came in and she sat in my dining room and she looked down, and that was a hundred-year-old rug in there. Beautiful. And she said, I just do not know why in the world you want to buy, pay all this money for these wore-out damn rugs. I wouldn't have this in my house. I grew up, this was the conversation. I grew up with these thread barren rugs with I why would you have this? You can afford new rugs. I was like, because I like these. Right. I like these vegetable-dyed, worn-out rugs.
SPEAKER_03:They look warm and used and homey. But what I was gonna say is this also relates back and is like cow hides. When we started in 2013, the home store, we bought cow hides by like, and again, they're not out of style, and they're actually, I feel like, coming back to like we've already rode the wave. Like we would sell like cow hides every day. Like we had stacks of, we would just sell cop, like we could not keep them. And then it was like we would sell one occasionally, like we would go and buy some, and then and now I feel like going back to the animal print, you're starting to see more kind of of that again. And so it's just funny how the trends come and go, but it doesn't mean you're out of style.
SPEAKER_01:No, it's just on what is hot for a trend, and it changes. But that was interesting, and uh just watching the activity around those things is like crazy.
SPEAKER_03:And it's funny that we've been selling those. We've had those in our store, every market we've bought from them since 2013.
SPEAKER_01:And we now interesting, I don't know if we talked about this. One of our rug vendors that we bought for forever since the beginning, they now have a section of antique one-of-a-cons. Rugs. Rugs. Oh.
SPEAKER_03:So it is across all industries, like rugs and furniture. It's across everywhere. Yeah. Like you see that it's very interesting. Well, well, while you were gone, or actually the day you were leaving, or the day before, and this was kind of one of the things that made me go, maybe I shouldn't go to High Point Market. Was a legitimate reason. Cleo or donkey, my donkey, not his. Not mine. Um Cleo had her baby.
SPEAKER_01:You haven't seen it yet. I won't. I'm so excited. I know. I've been so I'm not sure. I know we haven't really talked about it.
SPEAKER_03:I think you mentioned it maybe on here. Maybe not. I don't know. I was a little nervous. Yeah, because I was like, and I didn't show it on Instagram. So a lot of people were like, Well, did you know she was pregnant? And I'm like, Yes, I didn't. I mean, she was as big as this table. But and they're pregnant for a year. Yeah, it takes 12 months. A lot of people were surprised to find that out. It's the two period no for like six. Yeah. Um, and then you're like, the only thing I knew is I had seen the deed happening, and I could not remember. I don't know why I didn't write it down, but I either I said it's either Halloween or it's Thanksgiving. It was one of those, and I thought, oh, I'll remember. And I was like, oh, I'll remember, you know, by the summertime, if I can tell she's pregnant, I will know it's Halloween or Thanksgiving. Okay, well, I have a question about this because we haven't discussed this.
SPEAKER_01:Oh God.
SPEAKER_03:No, it was she enjoying it? Um, I mean, I don't think she didn't smoke a cigarette after.
SPEAKER_01:She didn't seem like she didn't seem like she was being violated. No.
SPEAKER_03:Oh no, oh no, no. When she it when she um is ready for it, she chases Romeo down.
SPEAKER_02:She she flaunts it. She's like, come to me, big daddy. Really? Oh yeah. She will bite at it. Good.
SPEAKER_03:She will back up in his face. Like give it to you. Yeah, she will back up in his face and actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's not like, no, she has the control. Yeah, she she she flirts with him. So I knew that it was gonna be around Halloween or Thanksgiving, and I couldn't remember. And I told you that, and you were like, oh hell, she's gonna have that baby when we're at high point furniture market, and Daniel's gonna be here on the farm. Nervous breakdown.
SPEAKER_01:Here on the farm. Daniel is really good with the plants and being Mr. Plant Farmer. Not animal farmer. He's not an animal farmer. No, and honestly, I'm just putting this out there. I can handle a lot. I can milk a cow. I could handle doing a lot of things. Yeah. I I I don't want any part of that. Of the birds. I just get too much.
SPEAKER_03:That wouldn't have bothered me. I was more nervous about like, oh, if something goes wrong, you know, that sort of thing. But um the funny thing is, so I had been watching her. I'm like, okay, she's getting closer. There were some checks I could do and like whatever. Um and so I was like, she's getting closer. Well, one night.
SPEAKER_01:Y'all don't even want to know about those checks.
SPEAKER_03:One night, um, you know, I looked at her and I tried to pay attention. Like, does she look the same? Has it dropped? Has it made whatever? And so the next morning her milk had come in. Like her teeth were big. And I was like, oh, that happened overnight. So that day I separated. I was like, okay, we're getting very close. So I separated her into her own area. And then it wasn't that night, but the next night is when she had the baby.
SPEAKER_01:And I want to tell our listeners, not in a vulgar way. Not in a vulgar way, because it's not vulgar, it's just the way you do it. It's that it's horses to. Um one of the checks that you can do to see when they're getting close is you pull their vagina open and you see what color it is.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. If it's pink, it's not time, but it gets brighter red because of all the blood flow. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, it's fine. It's fine. It is a little look, and it's fine. Um, but Daniel was like, dang, you got that right. Like you hit that right on the head. I said, I know, look at me go.
SPEAKER_01:Um you know, and this is this is a fun fact. Yeah. All my years growing up. I mean, I grew up more farmy than you did.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because we didn't you didn't have like we grew up in the farm area, but you didn't have farmers.
SPEAKER_01:Animals.
SPEAKER_03:You had we had pet animal, that particular. I've never watched an animal be born. Oh, really? I can remember if I have really either. Well, and I didn't with this one either. So I was on my way to here to the warehouse to do a live sale. And so I went out and fed her and checked everything, and she didn't sing anything crazy. And that was at like 3:30 in the afternoon. And she was eating, and I was like, okay, I'll check on. So left, came here, did a live sale, you know, went to like 10 or something. I don't know. But I think that one I didn't get home until like 10:30, 1045. So I went in, hadn't had dinner yet, ate dinner, and then I was like, let me, I was about to go to bed. It was like midnight. And I was like, let me go make sure nothing's going on with Cleo, because a lot of times they say they will naturally, naturally have them at night because of like predators and stuff, like they can hide a little bit. Well, I went out there with my flashlight, and there they were, both of them. It was standing up. He was dry, he was dry, fluffy, ready to go. Like nothing had happened. No, she was fine. Like, hey. Isn't that amazing? And she, I'm glad she was like, she took to it, you know, and let it nurse and everything like that. And I didn't have to do anything. I mean, it was. She was cleaned up.
SPEAKER_04:He was the miracle of life. It is.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, so that was that was my most stressful part leading up to it. It was like, if I have to get involved in something, like, I don't know, one of my pulling hooks out and you know.
SPEAKER_01:I I do know at different times, different family members had to help. Right. I know. And I was like, eh.
SPEAKER_03:I wouldn't mind the like fluids and stuff. You just kind of have to know though what you're doing, like pulling. So, but they they were fine. Um, the next day I was worried about um one of her teeth seemed like harder. So I was worried about it getting infected and stopped up or whatever. But so I called the vet and I had to go check her th her temperature. They were like, do you feel comfortable checking her temperature? And I said, Well, I have a digital thermometer like I use on myself. Does that work? And she's like, Yeah. And I said, I'm guessing this isn't going under the tongue. She said, No. You're gonna do it erectile. So I thought, okay, let me just go out here. She was fine. Um, and they were like, gonna call in antibiotics because they didn't have anyone that could come out. And it was Friday, of course. And then they called back and they were like, she doesn't have a fever. You said they seem fine. It may not have discovered that side yet, because it's been less than 24 hours, so it could just be that, and then it works itself out. They were like, just try to milk it some. So I just go out there and like make sure it was not clogged up and stuff, and then just milk it a little bit. And it was fine. And now they're happy. That's great.
SPEAKER_01:So baby Milo. It's a miracle, like, yeah, and you know, but I mean, listen, and do not do not text and say, Women, it's just a miracle. What women do, what animals do, it's just amazing. But you know, my grandmother used to, when she had her four children, she would work all day in the field. She, I know, I know one or two. No, I think it was two children. She had all four of them at home. And she birthed, I know one, I think two, by herself. Like there was no midwife there. And I got this. And she was back up and at it. Like that was the way it was. I know. That's the way it was. It was the way it was. And you know, before I was, you know, I'm very queasy about stuff now. I don't do blood, I don't do anything, which is kind of comical because I did used to kill chickens. Um but my first like study of anatomy, because when I was little, I was very curious about everything. Not you. I was.
SPEAKER_03:And I wasn't squeaming. What's that, Mama? I wasn't squeaming. Mama, what's that? What's that, Mama?
SPEAKER_01:When we would kill hogs, we would, you know, you take the inerts and usually dump them like in the edge of out in the middle of the day. You'd be like, what is this? I wanted to know all the organs. Yeah. That's when I like realized how everything worked together. Like, playing in it. I was asking.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like, what is this? Oh, this is the bladder. Yeah. But I wonder why like you went from that to being squeamish. I wonder what the like Probably the trauma of my childhood.
SPEAKER_01:That's funny.
SPEAKER_03:But I wish that I wasn't like so like uh like I just I don't like blood eat I it uh I d I don't like it. It all depends on the situation. Like the other week Daniel cut his finger, he was doing something dumb. He was like, I was doing something so dumb. And he cut it with the chainsaw, like the tip of his thumb. He's like, I could have cut it off. He's like, I just it just kind of bounced and hit it like boom, boom, boom, or whatever. Um and he was like, I just wrapped it up. I didn't even look at it, I just wrapped it up, put a band-aid on it, it's fine, like or whatever. And I was like, you gotta look at it. He's the same way. He's like, no, I'm not. And I said, okay, I will look at it. Like that, I knew, like, I knew his finger wasn't like cut off or something. So I didn't mind that. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure the way you sound and you're not that I'm I'm like, it probably took chunks out of it. So you're gonna have some little dents in your finger, but you'll be fine and feel back in in a little bit. He was fine there. But um the funny thing is back to so baby Milo is the donkey's name. That's what I'm going with, Milo. Um, but if you don't know, because in my stories on Instagram, I don't know why yes the other day, it wasn't yesterday, the day before, um sent off a little thing. I guess because Romeo was in the background.
SPEAKER_01:But everything had been a little bit more um his emotions had been a little bit more volatile.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Well, okay, so what happened? So I was showing the baby, and you could see Romeo in the background, and he's in a separate fence now, with he's in the bigger pasture with the goats, the emus. They're all hanging out together. And then baby Miles, Milo, um, and Cleo are over in their small area and they have the little barn and stuff and all that. So I was showing the baby. Well, then Romeo, you know, he likes to yell anytime he sees me. Well, when people see that, they always think that's why I stopped showing Romeo and the animals in general, because anytime, usually when I show them or I'm walking out and Romeo yells, and they're like, Oh, what's wrong with him? Poor Romeo, he needs attention or something, like he's being abused, abused and ignored. So yesterday when I did that with Cleo and the baby, and Romeo was in the background while he was at the fence yelling or letting out a yell, and so me, oh, poor Romeo, so neglected now. You need to go give Romeo love to. And I'm like, this is a 30-second story. Like, you didn't see that I already did that with him. I was just showing the baby, you know what I'm saying? And that shit just burns my ass up. I don't know why, because it's like you don't know the story, so why are you commenting like I'm doing something wrong?
SPEAKER_01:And you don't know, you and you don't pe most people don't understand the farm life dynamics. Yeah, how the there's a like Romeo is the king of that farm.
SPEAKER_03:Farm a hero protector, he's a guardian. Donkeys are guardians. So anyway, he beats the shit out of them. If they get out, they are in trouble with Romeo. Yeah. So Romeo, if he were to get in with put him in, because people were like, why don't you just let him in with Cleo and the baby? Well, he would kill the baby, and then he would try to breed meaning to. Well, no, he would mean to. Well, I know, but it's kind of like a hierarchy, like he wants to be the king. Yeah. Who's this little baby? I'm gonna kill it fast. It's hard to think about, but it is true. So um, that's why they're separated. He's not neglected, and they have to stay because she's very, you know, hormonal. And they can, I think they have a really quick like cycle. Um, right after, but you don't want them to get pregnant, but she could just because of like, you know, all the hormones and milk and all that stuff. So anyway, that's why they have to stay separate. Long story short. Yeah. It's kind of a big deal too.
SPEAKER_01:Um yeah, he Romeo. In fact, we talked today and I was like, what's floating to Romeo? Yeah, yeah. You can hear him.
SPEAKER_03:And I was like, because he sounded like he was pissed. Well, I had the door open. But I was inside my house, like but he was pissed. Yeah. He was pissed that a goat got out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, a goat got out. See, that's his that is his place. He is in charge of all of those animals. And if they get out, he is mad, and you have to protect them till he cools down. He's like your dad with a really bad temper. You have pushed his last nerve. And like, I've been there two or three times when he's almost killed a goat for getting out. Like, we thought one was dead.
SPEAKER_03:He'll pick them up by the back of the neck and like hang them in the air and the goat's screaming. It's disastrous.
SPEAKER_01:I have to go run through the field and like And you would think the goat that see the goat that goats are not very smart. Because you would think after going through that, they would be like, I'm gonna keep my ass in this pasture. Oh no. But they forget and then and he calms down, like seriously. He he's calmed down in 15 minutes.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. Usually what I do the right thing, I figured out, I don't know how I figured this out, but if a goat gets out, I'll go get food, and then when I put the goat in, I'll immediately feed them. So it changes the concentration and the dynamic, and then he eats and he's fine. But if the goat gets out and I don't feed him, and I just put the goat back in there, he's gonna whip that goat's ass. He's gonna chase that goat down and he is gonna teach it a lesson.
SPEAKER_01:It is it is very real, it's actually pretty cool though, the way nature works and that. Because it is like you you were on my watch.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you little heifer. That's right. Okay, we don't have much time, but I have one more topic that I want to get to because we're at 35. We're doing a live sale after this. Yeah, we're working. We're 8 p.m. almost, and we got to do a live sale and finish up.
SPEAKER_01:It's November 3rd, and we do not get a day off until like December 15th.
SPEAKER_03:Um, but I have a we're gonna have a therapy session. I kind of told you about this. You did a little bit. So Steven has maybe you at home can relate to is Dylan still here or T leave? He may have left. Dylan. He left. I guess he left. So damn, I need Dylan to I need Dylan to back me up, and I need Dylan to be in on this. I feel like this could be a group therapy. But Steven has this thing. Um, specifically, I feel like it's to your kitchen more than anything. We've joked on the podcast before in a live sale wherever Dylan will say, Oh, Dylan's here, Dylan's here. Come here. You need to pull up a chair. He doesn't have it a minute. Yeah. So, Steven, if you do a story or you're talking in general. I'm short enough. If you're talking in general, and you can say, Steven never cooks, or Steven never uses his kitchen. And he immediately says, Yes, I do. Yes, we do, doesn't he? Yes. He always does. So Dylan, yesterday or the day before, was they were at the grocery store and you were saying something about getting groceries, even though we never cook or use our kitchen. And then immediately, ears over here butts in, yes, we do. So I said, we got to break down the situation here. There's a psychology here that Steven feels the need to defend that you use your kitchen when you don't. I mean, when you get food from somewhere and you save it and you heat it up the next day in the microwave, that is not using your kitchen. Using your kitchen is like getting out the pots and pans and cooking. So I think And I do that like twice a year. Okay, twice a year. That's like I go to the Marriott Marquee in Atlanta twice a year for market and stay for a week. I don't own a room there. You don't use your kitchen. No, it ain't the same. So I kinda so I messaged Dylan on Instagram and I was like, we gotta get to the bottom of this. So I guess Dylan told Steven, and then Steven was like, Dylan told me what you said. So we have decided well, I have decided reading into it, so then we can let you defend yourself. I'm not good at defending. No, no, it isn't. Yeah, you can read into it however you want. So I've decided that because you have a nice kitchen and a nice home and you've been successful from where you started out and were brought up. We've talked about all that history here, you feel guilty for not using the kitchen that you do have. Or you feel guilty because like you're probably spending money on takeout and you should be at home cooking.
SPEAKER_01:That's a big one.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:So that's that's a big, it's it's the guilt, it's the guilt that I have a great kitchen. Yeah. And I was not raised to waste money like that on food. Um you eat at home. Yeah. Now we do eat at home. I'm not saying we cook. Yeah. We eat, always eat at least two meals. At home. Yeah. Yeah. You eat at home.
SPEAKER_03:You snack.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yogurt, that kind of stuff, coffee, yogurt, you know, small stuff.
SPEAKER_04:It's not a meal.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I didn't say I said we eat. I'm not saying that's cooking. Yeah. I'm just saying we eat like in one meal out. Yeah. We use our kitchen, but it's like not to cook. Yeah. It's like we buy food, bring it home, set it up there, and then eat it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. But like a lot of empty nesters are doing. Like a lot of other people are doing this. So that's why, and like you'll get a lot of women who are like, I don't cook for my husband, or like, we don't cook. So it's just interesting that you feel the need to defend yourself like you do.
SPEAKER_01:There's this like fantasy or lie that you're because I feel like I should be using my beautiful kitchen and saving money. But you don't why, but why feel guilty?
SPEAKER_03:It's a scar. So we've had this conversation on other things as well, because Steven, like, we've talked about one time you lost weight, he would not go buy new clothes. He would just put on 10 layers of clothes because he's like, well, I don't need to spend the money on.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, it it most most of my dysfunction, this is a fact. Most of my dysfunction goes back to um growing up without. Right. And not wanting, not want, not wanting to waste or feeling guilty. Right. So the there's been new, well, hold on. There's been, and you know, now I'm looking and starting to plan a kitchen remote. Right. So there's a whole there's a whole level of guilt with this because I'm ordering a La Cornu range from France. That's gonna sit in there and get turned on once a year. And that is fine. That's fine because you know what? I want that damn La Cornue range. That's right.
SPEAKER_03:So my thing is we need to let it go. You have you've earned this. You had a career, you built that up. It's not like you stole the money.
SPEAKER_01:But I kind of do. Okay, on a fun standpoint, listen, yeah. On a fun standpoint, when you when you buy the LaCorneux range, you get cooking classes from You're not gonna do that. I think that would be fun. You do it. It would if we do remotely for it.
SPEAKER_03:The point is don't justify it. You have been. I do justify everything. He has to justify everything. You've made money, you're successful, you don't have anyone to, you don't have kids to support. You can do what you want to with your money. And my thing from the outside is enjoy it. Buy the freaking oven and let it sit there and don't ever turn it on.
SPEAKER_01:I know. And it's but why I feel guilty of that. I know, but you if you remember, like way back when I've always gone, we could go any to any store anywhere, and I you you'll remember I used to put all kinds of things in the cart. Oh you would put things in the cart. Oh you would get to the checkout. His cart's empty. Mine's full. I put it all back. I'm going around shopping. You would say, Where's your stuff? And you'd say, I'd say, I don't need it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Isn't that messed up? Yeah. But you were saying also how, because we've talked about it on here, you have two cars. So three cars among two people. It's fine. Get 50 cars. Fill up the parking lot. What does it matter? It doesn't matter. It's your money spend it on what you want. But you were saying how you were in a meeting and someone said, Well, how many cars do you have? Yeah, well, I had driven a different car.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't notice it. Yeah. And um, you know, I'm just there and they and somebody came in and said, Is that your Mercedes or whatever it was? And I was like, Yeah. And they were like, Well, I just saw you driving a Range Rover. How many cars do you have? And did it like in front of like 40 people? Yeah. And my face turned red. Yeah. And he got embarrassed. I'd be like, as many as I want. And luckily it was funny because a friend of mine was there and she saw that I was embarrassed. And she said, Cause he can, that's fine. Yeah. And I was like, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So whether you're listening or you're Steven, if you are successful, and successful is so different to everyone. My successful is different from your successful. And yours is different from other people's, and mine's different from other people's. So enjoy what everybody does say. Like you and I've talked about this. Like I'm not going to have two cars like that because I don't like cars enough. It's not your thing. It's not my thing. I'm not going to put in a Lou poo poo li poo-poo oven because my well, Fam Song's a piece of shit. But whirlpool will be just as good. Whatever, I don't know, whatever oven it is. No, I don't mind. I mean, I would put in a nice one, but it doesn't have to be that because it's not going to do anything for me.
SPEAKER_01:Well, it w yeah, and I mean, it I mean, it it's true. You know what I'm saying? And it's funny because um everybody's level of success is so different. Like I told you, like I know people that what they want to do is cash in all their money, sell all of their homes, everything, and live somewhere remotely for the rest of their life. Right. And that's their success. Would be successful.
SPEAKER_03:That's how they and some people's is about how much money they can have saved up for their kids, which I don't know why that like that's that's bizarre to me, but that is some people's goal mentality and success. Mine is mine that I tell Steven is we're gonna be in the same home pissing in the same diapers, getting the same service. I'm gonna sit in mine the same length you're gonna sit in here.
SPEAKER_00:You better be real nice to me.
SPEAKER_03:We're all counting on dealing. And here's he's so much younger than us.
SPEAKER_01:Here's the thing. Here's the thing. At the end of the day, all anyone needs, all we need is enough.
SPEAKER_03:But everybody's enough is different. Everyone's enough is different, everyone's success is different, but you should never feel guilty in what you're able to accomplish because where you spend and put your money is different than what someone would spend and put their money in.
SPEAKER_01:And part of the reason my mentality is like that is my mother's parents, that was their um, that was their control over the family. Was money? Guilt. Oh, guilt. Guilt and money. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:So everything in my life. We're breaking in. We're back to layer.
SPEAKER_01:Everything in my life was centered around, you know, you have you save money, you hoard money, you do not spend it, you do not enjoy it. And if you do, damn you. Well, all those people are gone.
SPEAKER_03:So maybe you should just enjoy it.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and I'm not sure. There was a big lesson learned in that with my the way my whole family.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and I've told you robbed me. And I think we've talked about this on here kind of before. Like, if you get a new watch, Steven, instead of being like, oh my gosh, I got this new watch and being proud of the accomplishment, he for two weeks is talking about. I need to return it, I shouldn't have got it. Or justifying, well, I did get this one, and I could sell it for more than I pay. I could sell it for more than I paid. I got a deal, so I could make and I'm like, well, you're not gonna sell it, so why are we talking about it?
SPEAKER_01:I think all that stems, honestly, since we've been talking through it, I think all that stems from my grandparents. I know that sounds wild. I'm not to I'm not bashing them. They were wonderful people. But they didn't want you to enjoy anything. Yeah, nothing was to be enjoyed. Well, you need to enjoy it.
SPEAKER_04:I do.
SPEAKER_03:I do a good job at enjoying shit a lot more than I. Because if you fall over dead, someone's gonna enjoy it. They're gonna enjoy it a lot more than you did.
SPEAKER_04:You write.
SPEAKER_01:And not feel guilty about it.
SPEAKER_04:They're gonna feel guilty. They're gonna be look what I got!
SPEAKER_01:That's one thing that seriously, I mean, on a serious note, um, because the way my family ended up treating me. Right. And, you know, essentially robbed me. And so now I'm like, this is also gross to me. So I've loosened up, you have to admit, in the past. You've gotten much better.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, in the past, the kitchen is the thing. Because okay, the next thing, y'all are witnessing this here. He will get that oven and renovate his kitchen, which you're gonna feel guilty about. You'll feel guilty for renovating the kitchen because you're gonna be like, well, why did I spend money on the kitchen and we don't really use it or whatever? And you'll be afraid someone's gonna judge you for that. And it's like, what does it matter? Take your kitchen out, put it in, put two kitchens in. Put three. It doesn't matter. Just say I'll have a kitchen every week. I just like kitchens. I'm putting a kitchen in every room. What does it matter? It's your place. Yeah. I know. Anyway, that's that's but it is funny though when I So I was gonna say he's gonna get this oven and I'll make a joke. Well, y'all, you never use that fancy oven, and he'll be like, Yes, we do. Yes, we do.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, we do. I you just wait. I'm gonna turn I'm gonna be like Julia Child's in there.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna be like chicken. I hope you take these lessons and you should start an Instagram influencer cooking account. Cooking on your live proof poo-poo.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, be like, go, I should go through Julia Child's cookbook, one thing at a time.
SPEAKER_02:One page at a time.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna keep on a chicken. The problem with that is he'd have to hire someone to clean up behind him because he ain't gonna have his kitchen in a mess. That's the other side of it, too, though.
SPEAKER_01:That is if you've noticed, I cook whenever he's here. So he doesn't have to see the mess. That's all cleaned up. Yeah. It's all pretty. But oh. I went home and I had fresh, warm applesauce.
SPEAKER_03:But before you got home, I bet you saw on Instagram that Dylan was making applesauce. Let me tell you how this went. He saw on Instagram that Dylan was making applesauce while we were here doing a live sale. You immediately called him and said, Oh, you were making applesauce? And he was like, Yeah, I just finished. Did you get everything cleaned up? That shit better be cleaned up when I get home. Is that what he said? No, I didn't. Not this time. But normally, yes, that's the reaction. Okay, that is the reaction. There we go. Y'all can both just kiss it. It's funny. I'm glad we were able to do this. It is. We'll see next time. Okay. I got lots of things to work on, I'm sure. Oh, God. Can you imagine what we really have? I know. We gotta keep some things a secret.
SPEAKER_00:Seriously.
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SPEAKER_01:This was actually turned into a legit therapy session. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So if you're listening, if you need the same therapy session, I can do good. I can do it like this.
SPEAKER_01:But this is taking you like going on 17 years, so we normally get very defensive.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, we do use it. Yes, we do.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, I know. I know that I'm a case study in the psychology.
SPEAKER_03:I could pull out anything. Oh, you have a fancy Kitchen A mixer. You don't ever use it. I've never used it. That is a breakthrough moment right there. Because before today, you would have said, yes, I do. And I'd have been like No, I wouldn't have lied.
SPEAKER_01:I've never used, well, I'm going to. No, it's still in the box. Isn't that terrible?
SPEAKER_03:No. It's there if you want it. And if not, not. It's fun. It'd be fun. Yeah. Bye, y'all. Have a great week. We'll see you next week.