Who's Driving- Leggings Are Out And So Is My Patience S4E3

We chase a simple question about maple syrup into a bigger look at quality, trends, and why some “new” things don’t outlast the old. Along the way we decode syrup grades, debate leggings, tell some luxury fail stories, and defend real snow days.

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Transcript

Kicking Off And Travel Plans

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Uh, we're back. Let's fire this baby up and let's see if we can get her out of the garage. Um this code of who's driving. Welcome to Who's Driving? I'm Wesley Turner. And I'm Steven Mert. We're two best friends and entrepreneurs. Who's Driving is an entertaining look into the behind the scenes of our lives, friendship, and business.

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These are the stories we share and topics we discuss as two best friends would on a long road trip.

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Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer a wide range of informative topics centered around running small businesses, social media, and all things home and garden.

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Buckle up and enjoy the ride.

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You never know who's driving or where we're headed. All we know is it's always a fun ride. So we're back. We're back. We actually have to pre-record

Maple Syrup Curiosity

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this one. Not that that matters, but um because well, when this one comes out, I will have just gotten back from Florida. Hopefully I'm back and well and kicking. And you are still going to be have just left your Atlanta trip and you're heading to Savannah. You're gonna stop by and visit our franchise owners in Savannah and spend some time there.

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Mm-hmm.

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I am so so we're pre-recording this one. Um, but yeah. So what you got going on over there, Mister?

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I have a question. Oh I have a horticulture question. Okay, and this is something um that just literally popped up on my Instagram, but I've always been curious about. I'm sure this is gonna be one more time you let me down with this this answer. Is yeah, I know you did not go to school in this area before you get into that excuse. Um, so let's go ahead. I know that. What hold on, hold on, hold on. What was your degree in? My degree economics, mainly.

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Okay, so I'm gonna ask you something too. Go ahead. Maple syrup. Uh no nothing about maple syrup.

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But this this lady that I mean it is foraging maple syrup. And I mean, I'm just watching her. So I guess I have a couple questions.

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You tap the tree.

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You tap the tree. I see the sap of the tree, right? It's the sap of the tree. But what is it a certain it's a certain kind of maple tree?

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Um, yes. Let let's find out what kind of maple that is. But you know, um, I don't know the exact kind of maple. Uh it is, but it's up, you know, when we were driving through we went to like New York. No, no, no, no, no, no. Um Ohio and stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. We would just see them on the side of the road and all these trees, and they would have all these little tubes to them. And that's them getting the maple syrup. So it is certain. I mean, because we don't see that around here.

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Um It's a northern thing. It's colder weather.

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Yeah. But what is what else is your That was it.

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Like what like I've just never seen that around here, so I'm assuming it's just like a it's the sap of the sugar maple. It is a sugar maple.

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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, which we never, I guess, I don't know. Do we have sugar maples? I don't know here. Maybe we do, maybe we don't, but is it the cold temperature because you only tap them certain times of the year. I think in the spring is when the sap's going up, you know, when it's waking up and then you're draining some of it. But I don't know other than that.

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It'd be very interesting to tour. I think that would be something cool, like if you went to New Hampshire or where they do a lot of it. Yeah. And and see how that works. Mm-hmm.

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Um, so the sugar maple, known as the gold standard, it produces the highest sugar concentration in its sap. Um, and it requires less boiling. Boiling. Boiling. Boiling to make syrup, which you call syrup. Syrup. And I call it syrup. It's not syrup.

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It's S-Y-R-U-P syrup. Maple syrup. Syrup. Syrup. Hey, pass me the syrup. Pass me the syrup. I'm gonna put it on my pancake over here. Uh-huh. I need some maple syrup. No, syrup is one of those words some people say syrup, syrup. Syrup.

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Um, that is a good um, oh, it does say while any maple tree can technically be tapped, the sugar maple is responsible for the vast majority of commercial production. So if I mean I have a maple tree in my front yard, can I go tap that baby?

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I'm that there's my question. Right. And why don't we do it in the south?

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Yes. We're gonna have to Google that or ask our friend ChatGPT. Um, but there's gotta be a reason. I'm thinking it has to be with the cold, because it's Canada a lot and up north. So it's gotta be something with the cold making all their sap.

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Always New England, too.

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Yeah.

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Um it's gotta be something with the cold weather, cold climate. You would think it would be southern, though.

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You know what I mean? Like but their sap may not move as much for you to tap it. Like it that may not drain down to the roots as much, and then you know what I'm saying?

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And I love real maple syrup. Because to me, the real maple syrup is not that sweet. Yeah. But now if you get Mrs.

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Butterwurst, that is not Well, does it even have maple syrup? It's I don't know.

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I think it's probably just high fruit fructose corn syrup.

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Uh-huh, with a little maple flavor, however, they got that. Um I don't know. Um, that is a really good question. I would love to know how why it's up north, but I don't have time to um Google that.

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Well, I'm gonna ask Chat GPT since we're and you know we've got some listeners that are in um New England and up north, and they're gonna they're yelling at us right now. You dummies.

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Um why does most why does most um maple syrup come from up north? What are you gonna say?

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Um It's all about the trees, it's all about the sugar maples. They grow best in cold northern climates, they thrive in places with long winters, and they produce sap with higher natural sugar content than other maple

Why Syrup Comes From The North

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species. Right. The freeze thaw cycle is critical.

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So that's what it is. Yeah, this says um because the required freeze thaw cycle, nights below 32 and days above 32, only happens consistently in late winter and early spring. This pressure fluctuation drives sap out of the tree. Freezing creates suction to pull water in while dynamic while daytime warmth creates positive pressure pushing the sugary stored sap out of the taps. And now we know. See, we wouldn't have that here because we were too warm.

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So um the biggest one is Kannada or Canada, however you want to say it. Vermont, New York, and Maine.

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Well, there you go.

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Could it grow in the south?

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Well, the trees can grow in the south.

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They struggle, sugar maples struggle in hot summers and short winters.

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Well, that was a good thought-provoking question as to where that came from.

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I want to hear this. It says, he says, uh Fred, my chat GPG, says, if you want, I can explain how syrup grading works, the whole amber versus dark situation. Do tell. Do tell. I don't know why this was on my mind.

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I just how the hell did this come up?

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Um grade A is a color and a flavor description. That's it. More confusing gray beat grade B stuff, like in the old days. Very light color, mild buttery sweetness comes from early in the season, highest sugar content in the sap.

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Is it which grade?

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Is uh go the golden. Oh. The light. Amber rich taste, medium color, classic maple flavoring. That's the more common. Most popular is table syrup.

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Yeah, some of it's really concentrated. Like I've had it where it's like burns from burns. Yeah.

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The darker color is stronger, more caramelized flavor, comes from late in the season. And it's best for glazes on meat because it's so strong. Barbecue sauces, roasted vegetables, and coffee.

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Yeah. Yeah, it's not. This one has a punch. Okay. It's not all the same, and it's not all for pancakes. Like there's a pancake kind of amber. Okay. And then some of it you need to be diluting it in something.

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The light golden is best for drizzling on yogurt, uh, having with tea and baking. And amber, the amber is the pancake waffle's

Syrup Grades And How To Use Them

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everyday use. And it sounds like the dark one is the one you throw out in the yard. And then, oh, there's a very dark. Good gracious, this is almost black. It's deep brown, bold molasses-like flavor. I would like that.

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You gotta use that as a concentrate.

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It is very late season. It is best for cooking, baking, and marmalades.

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That's a concentration.

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Why the color changes? The sap's sugar and mineral concentration shifts.

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Mm-hmm.

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Huh. Well, who the hell knew? I mean, so you want your amber. And if you're gonna have it in tea and coffee and oatmeal, you could do the light gold. Light golden, but stop, I would stop at amber.

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I saw something the other day. Well, that's good to know. I've you're bringing new thought-provoking segments to the cards. We we gotta go back to our segments, our southernisms and our whatever isms and pisms and dismsms. But I saw, you know, 2026, new new year, new us, new styles, new trends, and new things. Guess what's out for 2026? What? This one excites me. I'm sorry, ladies, to tell you, but I saw it. I saw an article that said leggings are out for ladies.

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That's a good thing. I know. Most

Trends Talk: Leggings And Athleisure

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most of the women that wore those around should have never bought those.

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And well, I'm not one to judge anybody's. You know, uh walk around naked if you want to. I mean, that's what they practically did.

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Well, they did.

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You could see every dimple.

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And if you've got to wear a a bigger shirt to cover it up, but that's I rest my case.

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Well, and that's what some of them didn't do is put on a cover-up. I mean, those were supposed to be like a under, you know, like undergarment. You know, like from the kneecaps down, you saw.

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My favorite were the ones that were flesh colored.

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I know. I still can't. I can still, when I tell y'all, and I told it on here, I was walking through the grocery store and I thought this woman was naked. I mean, I looked away, I looked black, I looked away, I looked back. I mean, the only reason I know she was not naked is there was no hair. Like, well, that didn't mean anything she could have shaved. No, I mean, it was, you know, it was, but I could see every lip, every dimple, every everything. I'm telling you, I could see everything. I was like, damn. It was quite shocking. Oh, I had to tell you. But anyway, so when I saw that leggings are out, I thought, you know, that is that is the word that I need to spread. Leggings are out. I hate it for you. Put on a little little bit looser pants.

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And I didn't know this, you know. I don't I don't keep up like athletic wear and stuff like that. I really buy that just as I absolutely have to. Um, and I really don't care what I'm saying.

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Are you like your Lulu Liban?

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I do go to Lululin, but I'm like, yeah, I just go get what I need and I'm done. Well, now, what are you laughing at?

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My mom. What that just made me think, my mom, if she listens, maybe she'll be too busy to listen. Oh, but the neighbors live, but I'm sure she's told. We were downtown here one time and we were walking. And she was like, Oh, y'all have one of those Lulu Lamone stores. Lulu Lamon, I think is what she said. I forgot what it was. It just I just every time I think of it, it just makes me cry. Have one of those Lululamans. Yeah, Lulu Lamon store. Lulu Lamone. Like that's what she called it. Lulul, y'all have one of those Lululamon stores. And we were my aunt was with her. We were like, what? You mean Lululemon? But anyway.

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Lamon. I don't have it. Did I have a slice of Lamon in my tea boots?

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But my mom then just busted out laughing. She's like, oh my god, for years I've called it Lulu Lamont. She's like, I have told like patients in our office, like, oh, right past, you know, or go down there to the Lulu Lamone. And she was like, you know, they thought I was crazy as hell. They probably didn't know what she was talking about. No, I know. I was like, oh my gosh, that's funny.

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But anyway, back to your Well, we were in New We were in New York, and we were walking down Fifth Avenue, and I was like, What is that? Mm-hmm. And Dylan, of course, you know. Oh, you never heard. He was like, Oh, that's aloe. That's that's like a notch up from Lululemon. Allo? Mm-hmm. Never heard of him. I hadn't either. And I said, Well, we walked by and they had a window. Mm-hmm. And they said, I said, Oh, they have a men's line. I really like that like warm-up looking set. He was like, Yeah, I mean it it's nice. So I said, Well, we were walking by, I said, let's go in. It's I'm cold. Mm-hmm. Let's go in and look at it. I really like, I really like that outfit. What it was so wrong. Like the the women's had a good variety of fabrics and whatnot. You know, with some athletic stuff, you you you shouldn't do it. Right. That knit clingy stuff. Yeah. It was all that. I said, there ain't no way in hell I'm buying this. Yeah. I was like, if it were like that re-nylon, you know, something that doesn't like cling to every inch of your and I don't like clingy stuff like that. And so now since then I've just paid attention. Pay attention to what people are wearing. And I'm like, oh, so people are wearing more aloe. I think m I think older it's a older, more sophisticated crowd wearing the aloe than Lululemon. I'm like, my gosh, they it it's just that way with everything.

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Yeah, it's always something next and new.

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Lululemon started it and now and now, you know, Under Armour started it. That's true. Under Armour really was the first.

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Well, and I guess before them was um what were the shorts everyone had to have? Oh, it just slipped my brain. Um the oh my gosh, what were the running shorts? The birds? Is that um it wasn't Chubby's, no, it was before them back in the day. They were the first, I feel like, for me, athletic whole company. Um oh my gosh, it's on the tip of my tongue.

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Oh well, I will say this that we're talking about leggings and uh Lulu Limon. Um their quality is great and their stuff does last. The Lululemon. Um, because I really it really does last. And I don't mind paying a premium for something if it's not gonna tear up.

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Yeah. Um let's see. Yeah, you love some Lululemon. I don't I have a couple of things from there, but I don't wear it regularly, so you know, I don't speak to and I bought we'll ombre. Is that what it was called? Ombre. Ombre. Umbre. Yeah, ombre.

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I don't know. But in and you have enjoyed this, but I bought a about a year and a half ago, I bought a Montclair puffer. I don't know those of you out there that wear Montclair, um, if you don't, I wouldn't pay for it.

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Um it's bougie.

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I mine literally, it was twelve hundred dollars, which I think is very excessive for a jacket. And it was um nylon and knit.

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And Wesley, did it did my seams not literally just I mean so nothing makes me more excited than bougie shit falling apart. I'm gonna tell you this right now. And he had a Montclair, and this is very cute. This look how cute it is. This is Montclair. Oh, I just love this Monclair jacket. I heard this shit every time. Look at it, and it okay. I just can't appreciate things that just it looks like a jacket. I mean, it is cute, it's cute, it's fine, it's cute. Is it twelve hundred dollars? Cute. No. Did that piece of crap fall apart? Yes.

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Fell apart.

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So I called. And this is like, hold on, we'll we're gonna circle back around to you, Colin. This is like when I went to Vegas and I bought a, you know, we went to Vegas, we work on regularly, and you can get good deals on some clothing. And I did like going there just to I don't have a huge closet of clothing, you know, I wear my black t-shirt, that sort of thing. But I'd pick up a piece or two, and I was there and I bought um oh my gosh. It starts with an A. No, this was um No, I know.

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I just looked at it. Well, when when when I was in New York, I was like, oh, we can't buy that. It fell apart.

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Um, because this is where I

When Luxury Quality Falls Short

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got American people. Uh I get my pants. I do like their pants from there. Free people, something, something. I don't know. Some expensive ass. I bought this t-shirt. I'll think of it in a minute. Um, I bought this um, you know, for me, bougie. It was like a hundred and fifty dollar for a t-shirt. Kind of it was a polo, it had a collar, but it was like, you know, much to it. Then I wore it. I took, I bought it, I took it back to the hotel and I wore it, and I was literally taking it off, not roughly taking it off that night that I wore it, and it ripped. My thumb went through the back, like I pulled it, you know, by the collar, and it wasn't like, oh, I can't get this over my head or something. I literally was taking it off and it ripped. And I took it back and they were like, I had to literally throw a fit because they're like, you rip this, like as if I was partying or something, which I can see their side of it. But no, it ripped. Just taking it off. Because Steven is this gets me hyped up because he's a big believer that just because it's expensive, it usually in designer name that it usually means better quality.

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No, I don't think that about everything. And sometimes it

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Does but it doesn't. And so then the third incident that we're going to talk about, and we'll circle back around to all of these, and you can put it all into perspective, is your car, your Mercedes car, also that is very, very expensive. 6,000 miles on it.

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6,200.

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You've you have had it for five years. Five years. 6,200 miles. He never drives this car.

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He's taken very good care of it.

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And the reason why I like making fun of these things is because if you know Steven, especially live sales or anything, or been here, he is no one is going to be gentler more. If there's a maintenance to be done, it's going to be done. If it's going to needs to be clean, it's going to be clean. Like back to the clothing part. You don't even wash your clothes unless you have to. So there's no reason for these things to break. And then like your car. The top, the the convertible, the cable broke on it, and one headlight has water in it. And I'm like, how the hell does that happen? Never been wrecked. I have my car that I changed the oil two times in five feet.

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I mean, it has been, I don't even think I've farted in that car. And it's a great, I mean, mechanically there's nothing.

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But my point is there shouldn't be anything wrong with that.

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My point is when you buy an S-class Mercedes, that's their top of the line. That is their icon car. That is why they exist. Right. Is that car.

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And basically it's been sitting there and driven like, I mean, six. That's what a normal car they average 12,000 around 12,000 miles a year. A thousand a month.

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And mine gets a thousand a year. Is what it's driven. And and I was like, um. So we took it in for service, which is another astronomical amount of money, which is fine. Do you know that has gone up in one year? One year it went from $350 to $500 just for an oil change.

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Well, that's about like my helmet.

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And I so I said, Well, this headlight has to be fixed. This cable has to be fixed. I mean, I'm not gonna let it turn into a junker. Yeah. And um I mean it already has PC. To get a cable fixed and a headlight. And I flipped my shit. Not at the dealership because they're great, but the quality the principal. Right. And you know what? The service manager was like, I totally agree. This is not acceptable. So he put me in charge with um Mercedes-Benz headquarters. And I have to say they've been really great. Um, and they're working on it. So they're gonna let me know, I guess, Monday or Tuesday, if they're paying for the whole thing or half or whatever.

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But here's the thing. But it shouldn't have happened. A, it shouldn't have happened. And B, if it did, it should be considered such a one-off that no one should yeah, no one should question it. No one should Oh my gosh, I don't know how this happened to your car. We're gonna take care of you.

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Like we know you. Yeah, I mean, it ain't the first car I've bought there.

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Well, even if it's not you, it's six years old.

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But I'm saying they know that I've been coming there for years. Yeah. They know I don't dog my car.

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They know. I mean, if you pulled in with a six-year-old car and 200,000 miles, it's like, yeah, you've been You've been hard on it. You've been hard on it. You've used the car, so this isn't under warranty. But when you bring in a car with six thousand miles on it, it's new.

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My dad was like, that SOB is new, right? And my dad was like, but it has to be fixed. Yeah. I mean it's just funny. But anyway. So anyway, Mercedes-Benz. I will say this. Mercedes-Benz has been wonderful. The dealership has been wonderful. Mercedes Benz has been wonderful, and I think we'll see how wonderful that it's fixed. I think at a I think it will be taken care of. I I feel very good about that.

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Monclair. Now let's go right back around to your Monclair jacket for today.

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I really want to take it and shove it up the president of Monclair's ass wherever he is in in Europe, because I take such good care of my clothes. Where honestly, whether no matter how much I pay for it, but especially if I pay, I mean, those are supposed to be super warm. I mean, they're ski, they're they're ski clothes. I'm like, and it was warm. I loved it. But damn, the hot sleeve unraveled off. I bet I haven't worn it 20 times. And the the the stitching is like it's rotted and like just falling apart. It's literally just truly unraveling. My my jacket is, I mean, I'm going to have to, if I wear it, I'm going to have to put it on in layers because it's and and staple it together or something. So I called, I called my my my guy that helps me at Neiman Marcus, and I said, I don't mean to be that person, but I have this issue. And I sent him pictures and he was like, Oh my gosh, this should not have happened. Here, let me email Monclair. And he looped me in

Old Appliances Vs New Reliability

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on the email.

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Yeah.

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And so I sent Monclair all these numbers off of my jacket. They did their little investigation. Do you know those fools sent me an email and said that is normal wear and tear?

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No, you didn't tell me this. You got an update. That is normal wear and tear for it just to fall apart. What did you say?

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What didn't I say? So I'm like, no, not good enough. So I went back to Neiman and I was like, you know, this is what they said to me. And, you know, I think you need to see how this can be rectified. And and I told Monclair, listen, I love the jacket. And I'd bought Dylan a puffer, and his is great. I think, and I truly, I truly think it's a one-off situation, quality-wise, because they're known for great quality. Dylan's is great. Um I just wanted it replaced. Like there's obviously a problem with it. You know, something there's a problem with it. I don't know if they got bad threat. I don't know if something happened to it while it was being put together. I don't know. But that just it just chaps my ass. I mean Yeah.

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Seven for all mankind is where my shirt was from.

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Mm-mm. Yeah. Mm-mm.

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I'm pretty sure.

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No, it I'll tell you the name. I'll um I'll tell you anyway.

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It was expensive.

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It wasn't seven. It wasn't seven. Um I'll tell you in a second.

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But that that is too funny that they said that was you hadn't updated me that you had gotten that email. Yeah. Normal wear and tear. Yeah, right. It looks like I it that is bizarre. Because it's All Saints. All Saints was your shirt that fell. No, All Saints wasn't. I know I went there too. I bought some stuff from there. You told me it was All Saints. Oh, it was Seven. Where I got my jean. Yeah. Because I have some seven shirts that are phenomenal. Yeah. I haven't had any. I got a replacement and it's been.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Well, you told me it was All Saints. So you mean I've been avoiding buying it.

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It wasn't all you got confused. Uh-oh. No, you had said because it's where I liked seven, their jeans. And I had never bought a shirt from there. And I did, and that's where I had to throw fit. And then I was like, look how many jeans I bought and stuff. And they didn't. Seven jeans are great. Yeah, I do like their jeans. I need some new ones. Um, but anyway, oh, some people are walking by. They're going to smoke some weed down there. I'm going to the party.

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I'm going to go to that. I'm going to go to that Valentine party. Hey y'all. You know it'd be what y'all smoking the night.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

But I can't believe well, I'll just let it go. But anyway, that does happen from time to time. Steven thinks, you know, ooh, this is nice. And then it fell apart.

SPEAKER_02 31:39

I don't think that. I think some products should have been nice.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

When you got it, it is a nice jacket. Um what I'm saying is it is a nice jacket until it fell apart. Like it, but it shouldn't have fallen apart.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

I wouldn't have bitched about buying it if it hadn't fallen apart. That's the thing. Like I bought it. I knew it was expensive. I just expected the quality more than a year and a half. And I'm like, no one is going to buy a jacket like that and be okay with it falling apart.

SPEAKER_03 32:12

So they're not going to replace it or anything?

SPEAKER_02 32:15

No, now it now Neiman's is deciding. Whether they should replace it. Well, let us know if Neiman's comes through. I don't know. I reckon I'm just going to get me a Lululemon and be done. There you go. It'll fall apart now. Well, my my um alterations guys just up the street, so I'm gonna drop it off. See if he can re-sew the whole thing. And I'm gonna say just I'm gonna have him reinforce all of the stitching.

SPEAKER_03 32:44

The whole sleeve is about to fall off. It's up to my elbow. I know. It started around your wrist. And it's up and then it and my shoulder. And now it's and then it's going up the sleeve, and then it now it started at your shoulder, and it's gonna be coming. There ain't gonna be nothing left. You're gonna have a vest. I'm gonna have a vest. Maybe he could cut the sleeves off and get him to reinforce. It makes me so mad.

SPEAKER_02 33:11

It makes me it infuriates me when I think about it. Oh my gosh, that is that's crazy. But you know, uh nothing is great quality anymore.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

No, nothing. No, nothing, nothing at all. And that's the crazy thing. I was talking about well, I think I've bitched about that before too.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

And well, and you know, my refrigerator from 1995 is at our home store right now. Still going. She might not be the best looking thing anymore, but she works pretty.

SPEAKER_03 33:49

She works. I told you my mom, my parents have that same one. And there's still yes, still. I mean, my for years my mom's like, well, the ice maker went out years ago. I yeah. And you know, she's like, Oh, I guess we need to get a new refrigerator, but it still works. I mean, it's still going to be best refrigerator. She got that one in 1994 when we moved to that house. It's just like my you said it's just like just like yours that's in our store now.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

Mine, mine was a 95, so it would have been the same.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

Which you know, we speaking of that, we got a refrigerator at our Florida cottage. It was it was a year this past August that we got a refrigerator.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

What happened with that? You never followed up and told me what happened.

SPEAKER_03 34:36

Oh, the okay. What happened was it the piece of shit and broke down. So they um been less than a year. No, it was right over a year, and it only had a one-year warranty. It was like 14 months. Oh. And so there was no warranty, nothing they could do, so we had to pay half the price of the refrigerator to get a new compressor put in. And nothing, I mean, and think that just sits there. That wasn't used. I mean, there's nothing. I mean, it's a refrigerator. What can you do? I mean, you know, there's nothing that it's junk. Yeah. It was 14 months old, a frigid air refrigerator, and it wasn't, you know, the cheapest and it wasn't the most expensive, but heck, uh, you know, the compressor's the same in all of them. You know what I'm saying? Like there ain't no. Everything is just plastic and and it's one of those, it has like dual compressor, you know, like the freezer side runs on its own. So like that was still working, but the refrigerator side, so it should have been, should theoretically even last longer because it's having to do less work. Right. I don't know. So no, it um it broke down and they put a loaner in. The management company did. This was in our Florida cottage while we figured it out, and then but there's only a one-year warranty. So we just had to pay for them to put in a new compressor.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

So And I never ever buy warranties, but usually that's a pain in the ass.

SPEAKER_03 36:10

Yeah. It probably you know it wouldn't have covered it anyway.

SPEAKER_02 36:13

There would have been a yeah, there would have been something.

SPEAKER_03 36:17

And that's one of those things, okay. It was like that much, the warranty probably would have been just as much. Plus, you may have gotten something off of the replacement, but you know they wouldn't have replaced it all.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

It's just and even like the

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SPEAKER_02 36:30

Mercedes, if I'd bought an extended warranty, that would have been so much money. Right. And probably wouldn't have covered it. Probably wouldn't have. Well, we don't we don't cover headlights. Yeah. The hell. You know, the only warranty I buy, the only thing I buy on my cars are the wheel. Because, and here's the reason I buy that. It covers the tires. So like if you have a blowout or something, they replace that tire. But then it I feel like it's worth it because it's like $900.

SPEAKER_03 37:08

But like what if you run run up on a curb with your pay they they cover it. So $99 deductible.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

Oh, that's but like the the Mercedes and the Range Rover wheels are like $2,800 for a wheel. So I'm like, that's a matter of time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:28

Run up on stuff.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

I mean, that's easy to do, or hit a pothole and warp it.

SPEAKER_04 37:32

Right.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

So I'm like, well, that's a good one to buy. But most of those warranties, I'm like, and cause then and you I'm you it's easy to scuff a wheel, and that recovers the scuff to having that fixed.

SPEAKER_03 37:46

Yeah. That's what I was wondering. Does it s if you scuff it, grind it up against something?

SPEAKER_02 37:52

You get it fixed for $99, but most of them, most of that warranty stuff, I just don't buy. Yeah. I mean, I was raised, you don't buy it.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

Yeah. Well, I mean, really, have you ever needed it? I mean, that's the thing, and then you've it would have paid it out. You know what I'm saying? So it's take your chances or not. But that's crazy about stuff. They gotta make shit better these days.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

I know. You I mean, my grandparents bought a night I I think this is correct. It was a Plymouth, and it was a 1961 or three, I can't remember. Yeah, it was a white four-door Plymouth. So they bought that car new. I guess it was in '61. So that car went from my grandparents to my parents got it. Then my parents didn't want it. It went back to my aunt. It my aunt and uncle got it then.

SPEAKER_04 38:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:54

Then they tired of it, it went back to to us.

SPEAKER_04 38:59

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

Then for whatever reason, we were done with it again. Went back to my aunt and uncle.

SPEAKER_03 39:06

Dang.

SPEAKER_02 39:07

Seriously. It that car went. Do you know that car fine, I forget how many miles it had on it. It had the push button on the dash, is how you put it in gear. And do you know that car would still be? I might be driving that car right now. And we finally just had to get rid of it because it had, and I forget how many hundreds of thousands of miles on it. My dad drove it to work for years when he worked in Columbia. But eventually the whole the whole underneath of the car just completely rusted out. Just you could see the you could you could see the the highway. The highway. I mean, it you the the car was worn out.

SPEAKER_03 39:59

But the motor was still going.

SPEAKER_02 40:01

Never a problem with that car.

SPEAKER_03 40:03

Well, I told you not a car, but we talked about this I think before the break or sometime. I don't know, because I remembered to ask my mom, but she didn't know exactly. She has a freezer in her garage. And I was like, is this freezer still working? She's like, Yeah, it's full of stuff. It is from like her aunt. Like, we she's like, I couldn't get to it to see what year it was from. She's like, it's gotta be from like the mid-50s.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

Like she was those were the best.

SPEAKER_03 40:33

But this freezer is still going. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:36

My mother, my mother was born in 54. Yeah. My grandparents, so my grandmother died in 2019. The freezer in their house was from 1953.

SPEAKER_03 40:51

That's probably and it was still going. That's like this freezer. She's like, uh she's like, I every time the power goes out or something, I'm like, is it gonna start back up? She's like, but it is still going, still freezing, still.

SPEAKER_02 41:05

My aunt I mean they aunt has one from like 1960 and it's still going. Yeah. I mean the only problem we've ever the only problem with either of those is when there was a power outage, which wasn't their their fault. Yeah. It's the only negative with those. I know the one you're talking about, it's the chest, and it's got the handle is like this big and you pull it up. Uh-huh. I think it's a GE. Probably. And you pick up, it's a it's the old chest type, and you pull it down and you push it in and it locks it. You lift it up. The handle's like this big and you pull it out, and then you lift it up and you push it down and you put it. Well, the only problem with those, I mean, they're great, they work great, but you know, the ice builds up in them.

SPEAKER_03 41:55

Oh, yeah, yeah. You got a defrostation.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

But other than that, those were the best freezers.

SPEAKER_03 42:01

Crazy. And like we have a refrigerator in I need to go see what year that is. In our um, we'll call it the mother-in-law suite in our house. You know, our house has a kitchenette in the upstairs. Um, and that's gotta be original to the house, which is in the 90s.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

Still going? You don't I mean, I'm telling you, they make nothing like they used to, including people. Yeah. Nothing.

SPEAKER_03 42:31

This is it right here. This freezer, something like that.

SPEAKER_02 42:35

Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_03 42:36

Yeah. Still going.

SPEAKER_02 42:39

Yeah, they're actually that is a little more rounded on the edges. Maybe. That's a that's a little newer model, but yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_03 42:48

Yeah, that one is newer. It is a little more rounded, but you same kind of style. It's true. Do you know changing subjects off of piles of shit, I guess. Um do you know, because you we don't have kids, obviously. Um, I saw on social media, and this is probably parents are like, they did that years ago, probably. I don't know. Do you know they changed the alphabet song? Like A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L M N N O P, Q R Q R S T What What Do You Me? How do you change the alphabet? Let me play it for you. I looked it up. That is ridiculous. I saw it on social media and I said, Nope, but here is the new let me see.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U W.

SPEAKER_02 43:53

I wanna beat that person up too. Whoever's singing that.

SPEAKER_03 43:57

They broke up L M N O P. Cause you know, you run it together. Yeah. L M N O P. So they broke it L M N and then But it's harder to say I can't s L M N N N O P. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

And whoever that is singing it, I just want to bully them. I want to beat that person up.

SPEAKER_03 44:21

That's funny. That is too funny. I could see you being like, come here, you little punk.

SPEAKER_02 44:27

Yeah, I mean, can't you just picture that person singing that? I just want to kick them in the crotch.

SPEAKER_00 44:48

Now I never will forget how to say the alphabet. Comments to the James.

SPEAKER_02 44:56

I want to slap her too. That's it. I mean, that's the problem. We can't leave well enough alone. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 45:05

It's true. God. I was so confused. I was like, I can't even sing it that way. Element OP is one. That's one.

SPEAKER_02 45:13

Well, and you know the way they teach um math and they do everything now. They have just tried to they have just been recreating everything to justify their job. Somebody somewhere. I'm like, two plus two equals four. How do and they try to like yeah. It's I feel bad too. And the other thing I feel bad for kids is there's no snow days now. Oh yeah. It's all e-learning. E-learning. You know what I would be saying? No power. Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 45:49

But then you just have to catch up.

SPEAKER_02 45:51

Yeah. No power.

SPEAKER_03 45:53

But I want to know is the e-learning. Um, what is that in, you know, what is how long does the e-learning day take if it's an e-learning day? Like how much really goes into that? Do you watch some videos on an iPad? Do you do a little homework? Like what how much work is an e-learning day? Because you know, they did e-learning forever with COVID.

SPEAKER_02 46:18

But it's a huge, huge. Here's the thing. It's a huge disadvantage. It's a huge pain in the ass for the parent. And it shouldn't be.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

Yeah, but it's also a disadvantage. You're not gonna remember that chapter that you have happened to be on a snow day as much as if you were in the classroom either. I don't know. I wouldn't have. I don't know. I couldn't have been let's just go back to snow days. I know. I mean, let kids get. And on that one winter that it's bad, you get out in June. You know what I'm saying? I mean You got three snow days built in. Give them their snow days for God's sakes.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

Let them have some snow cream.

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SPEAKER_02 47:00

Let them, you know.

SPEAKER_03 47:02

Oh my gosh. I would have been so depressed if I'd have had to go to school snow day and then had to still do work.

SPEAKER_02 47:10

E-learning?

SPEAKER_03 47:11

Oh, I would have been pissed. See, I didn't think about that.

SPEAKER_02 47:14

It was fun. You could go to your grandparents, you could go like play with your cousin. You could do all kinds of snow days were the best.

SPEAKER_03 47:22

Yes. You got to go sledding and then you got cold and then you came in and cuddled up. You might watch a movie. It was just a huge bonus. E-learning. E-learning. I don't think I had to ask my mom if my niece, I don't think she had to do e-learning. She's like, I don't they but she's in first grade. She will.

SPEAKER_02 47:43

It'll get there. Don't worry.

SPEAKER_03 47:45

But they ended up.

SPEAKER_02 47:46

They'll be learning ABCs wrong.

SPEAKER_03 47:49

They ended up missing. My mom was like, um, my mom was like, I grew up in, you know, back in the day, and we never got out of school for more than like maybe like three days. And that's why I was like, as a kid, I can remember maybe missing three days for snow days. Maybe. And you were back at school, they missed 10 days this year. Like consecutive ten consecutive days for one snowstorm.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

School was out here a long time.

SPEAKER_03 48:22

And here's the thing if because there's a lot of country back roads. They're so um careful now. Back in the day, they were like, get your ass to school after three years.

SPEAKER_02 48:34

Yeah, they didn't care. One of my school buses flipped up side right. We turned they turned it over with me in it. You were in it? Yeah, I never tell you that. Yeah, it had been raining and the a car pulled out, and the girl tried to go around the car, but it had been raining a lot, and so she went off the side of the road a little, and that soft dirt just gave way. We just laid over.

SPEAKER_05 49:03

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 49:05

Wasn't that big of a deal, but you would have thought, like, I was like, woo-hoo, you know, I mean, it laid on its side, but you know, the kids flopped to the side, but it wasn't, and you know, because there was no seat belts or anything. Yeah. I just remember being like, God, now we've got to get out in this rain and wait on another bus to pick us up. Like it was just an inconvenience. Yeah, it wasn't. I wasn't some like some of the kids were crying, they were scared. And I'm like, well, I mean ain't nothing wrong with anybody. It's fine. Yeah. But I don't want to sit in the rain. Can I lay in this bus? I was in the first grade. Yeah. But see, everything is so litigious now because if like if there's a back road in the county that has ice on it, and the school bus has to go on that road, school has to be canceled.

SPEAKER_03 50:02

Yeah. It's really bad here where we are in Greenville County because the county's so big, it's out by me, which we're south of 85. We talked about that. Our weather's always less, typically, um, like less snow, less football. But it goes to the foothills of the mountains. But then it goes all the way up to the foothills of the mountains where they like literally where we are, we might get no snow and they might get eight inches of snow. But then people out by us, the schools are closed. They don't I can't understand why our county doesn't have districts.

SPEAKER_02 50:36

Within the county.

SPEAKER_03 50:37

Within the county, which is odd to me.

SPEAKER_02 50:40

You would think they would have southern Greenville, northern Greenville, at least.

SPEAKER_03 50:44

Right. I mean, growing up, we didn't have that either, but we didn't need that. We were in flat Tennessee, West Tennessee. There was, I mean, if it it was equal. You know what I'm saying? Like it was fine, but it's not like that here. It's not like that.

SPEAKER_02 50:58

And it's that way in Pickens County, too, because you've got you've got Easley and Clemson. This is the county next door. Yeah, the county where I grew up. But then you've got the foothills of the mountains and Pickens going up toward Highway 11. So you've got, you know, mountains. Yeah. Mountain roads up there.

SPEAKER_03 51:19

They stay iced longer and that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_04 51:23

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 51:26

Speaking about, it's time to get out of here. Yep. We gotta pull this baby over. Pick a fork in me window. We're gonna wrap this one up. We'll be back next week. We're gonna get rolling. We gotta have some guests on this season, too. Um, like I said, we had to pre-record this one since we were gonna be at the beach and Steven's gonna be on a little road trip. But we'll be back to tell you all about that. Hope y'all are having a great week. Remember to leave us a review wherever you get your podcast, but make sure it's a five star one. That's right, baby. All right, we're gonna pull this over. Bye y'all. Bye.